re: Joe Rogan interviews the pilot in the Nimitz/Tic Tac incident (pg 8: US Army weighs in)

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Mitchell warns that aliens want to share their knowledge of zero point energy with the inhabitants of Earth, which implies the possibility of extracting “free energy” from empty space but “will not tolerate any form of military violence on the planet or in space. ”

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So does this mean the
warmongering CIA and MIC are unaware of the aliens or are deliberately trying to sabotage the contact?


And who says the alien races have mastered space travel? If some alien race is using wormhole technology isn't there a strong chance of a stranded ship with no way to get home? Like the Viking and even Roman artifacts they periodically find in Nova Scotia.

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Fascinating stuff. I can’t believe this isn’t a bigger deal in the news, though.

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It has been since the 2017 NT Time article
The issue is that most things are crowded out by general politcal divisiveness (leading to low signal to noise ratio vs apathy by most folks)

The youtube channel below has chronicled most of the video clips from mainstream outlets:

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrxesxFeskSt6TMMm9rnqfw/videos

News write up about the podcast
Will add to the OP:

https://www.news.com.au/technology/science/space/what-the-hell-is-that-navy-pilot-reveals-creepy-incident-of-dark-mass-coming-up-from-the-depths/news-story/6a96202a189a58300b4c717e14b15422

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What the hell is that?’: Navy pilot reveals creepy incident of ‘dark mass’ coming up from the depths
OCTOBER 7, 20195:58pm

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Retired US Navy pilot commander David Fravor first came forward in a bombshell New York Times article in December 2017, describing how his squadron witnessed a 737-sized object just under the surface of the water during training exercises in the Pacific Ocean, 160km off the coast of San Diego. Hovering just over the surface of the water above the submerged object was a 12-metre-long “Tic Tac-looking object” moving erratically “forward, back, left, right”. Cdr Fravor attempted to intercept the object, but it shot away at incredible speed.

On a subsequent flight, another member of his squadron managed to film one of the objects using the plane’s infra-red targeting camera after its radar systems were jammed — which Cdr Fravor noted was “technically an act of war”.

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Appearing on the popular Joe Rogan Experience podcast on Saturday in his first major interview since the Navy’s official acknowledgment of the videos, Cdr Fravor discussed his sighting and also revealed how other pilots had “come out of the woodwork” to tell him their own encounters.

“They don’t feel alone,” he said. “One of the guys was a Navy helicopter pilot. He was flying a CH-53, a big heavy-lifter the Marine Corps uses for certain things. Off the East Coast they do a lot of shooting, at the time it was off Puerto Rico.” Cdr Fravor said the helicopter pilot’s job at the time of the incident in the “mid to late ‘90s” included retrieving BQM aerial target drones, which deploy a parachute and fall into the ocean, as well as submarine telemetry torpedoes that collect data before blowing ballast and floating to the surface.

The helo drops a swimmer in the water, he hooks the whole thing up and they fly back. The first time they were out and they were going to pick up a BQM, he’s sitting in the front — in the CH-53 you can see down by your feet — and as he’s looking down, they’re 50 feet (15 metres) above the water, he sees this kind of dark mass coming up from the depths,” he said.

“As they hoist the BQM up, he’s looking at this thing going, ‘What the hell is that?’ And then it just goes back down underwater. Once they pull the kid and the BQM out of the water, this object descends back into the depths.”

The pilot thought the incident was “pretty weird”, according to Cdr Fravor. Then a few months later, it happened again. “He’s out picking up a torpedo, they hook the diver up on the winch, and as they’re lowering him down, he sees this big mass,” he said.

“He goes, ‘It’s not a submarine’. He’s seen submarines before. Once you’ve seen a submarine you can’t confuse it with something else. This big object, kind of circular, is coming up from the depths and he starts screaming through the intercom system to tell them to pull the diver up, and the diver’s only a few feet from the water.”

He continued, “They reverse the winch and the diver’s thinking, ‘What the hell is going on?’ And all of a sudden he said the torpedo just got sucked down underwater, and the object just descended back down into the depths. They never recovered it.”

Cdr Fravor said the helicopter pilot was adamant the torpedo “didn’t sink” but “literally looked like it got sucked down”. He said the pilot spoke to The New York Times about the incident ahead of the 2017 story but “they wanted something newer”.

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They would come down from above 80,000 feet (24,380 metres), drop down to about 20,000 feet (6100 metres). They’d hang out then go straight back up after about three or four hours,” he said. “Just think of the physics — 80,000 feet is where you can start to see the curvature of the Earth. It’s considered space, they’re coming from above that. (Elon Musk’s) SpaceX is really excited because they can launch a rocket, have a booster come back to Earth and actually land on a pad. It’s a very impressive engineering feat. Next to this technology, that’s like a Model T next to a Porsche.” A number of UFOs have been spotted underwater. Picture: iStock A number of UFOs have been spotted underwater.

Cdr Fravor said he was speculating but suspected the objects were somehow “manipulating the gravity field and just moving through a void”. “You could in theory fly, go into the ocean, cruise around, pop back up, fly around, go to space. You remove the barriers of the normal propulsion we have today,” he said.

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Makes you wonder what would happen if there were to be a collision with one of those things.

Hellyer is a crank.

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The Fermi paradox is nothing more than the ramblings of a stoned smart guy with a PHD in physics. It’s just a bunch of made up nonsense with big words thrown in.

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It's a pure logic exercise, and it isn't meant to be "true" necessarily it's meant to shape a frame of expectations. In that case, it's interesting.

Drone from the mothership!

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I have some non-groundbreaking, common-knowledge news for you: We are very, very special- mindbogglingly-special- when you look at the statistics and physics of what took/takes place for us and our planet to thrive.

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You were saying...


https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/10/08/cambridge-university-planet-hunter-says-mankind-could-find-alien/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

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Cambridge University planet hunter says mankind could find alien life in 30 years as he wins Nobel prize share Swiss astrophysicist Didier Queloz Swiss astrophysicist Didier Queloz
Henry Bodkin
8 OCTOBER 2019 • 8:13 PM

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Cambridge University planet hunter said on Tuesday that mankind could detect alien life within the next 30 years, after winning the Nobel prize. Didier Queloz, who as a PhD student discovered the first planet outside our solar system, said he is “convinced” by the existence of extraterrestrial life.

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Speaking in London on Tuesday, he said: “I can’t believe we are the only living entity in the universe. “There are just way to many planets, way too many stars, and the chemistry is universal. “The chemistry that led to life has to happen elsewhere.”

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He added that, although not a believer himself, “Science inherited a lot from religions”. “In a way science is part of this process about being curious about the world," he said.

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What a loon...
Conspiracy kook...
He must be anti-science...

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They're not alien space travelers. They're interdimensional beings, or perhaps artifacts of our own collective unconscious.

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Like Ghosts, Big Foot, Mothman, the Jersey Devil, and Dennis Rodman

These guys have reported very fairly on these events

Skeptical, but honest reporting...

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/30256/scientist-behind-the-navys-ufo-patents-has-now-filed-one-for-a-compact-fusion-reactor

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Scientist Behind The Navy's "UFO Patents" Has Now Filed One For A Compact Fusion Reactor

The latest in a series of bizarre Navy patents isn't just for a revolutionary reactor that could power cities, but also potentially a craft.

BY BRETT TINGLEY AND TYLER ROGOWAYOCTOBER 9, 2019

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The War Zone has been reporting on a set of bizarre patents assigned to the U.S. Navy that describe radical new technologies that could absolutely revolutionize the aerospace field, and frankly, the very way we live our lives. These include high-energy electromagnetic fields used to create force fields and outlandish new methods of aerospace propulsion and vehicle design that basically read as UFO-like technology. You can learn all about these patents, their viability, and the issues surrounding them in these exclusive features of ours. Now, the same mysterious Naval Air Warfare Center Aircraft Division engineer behind those patents has produced another patent—one for a compact fusion reactor that could pump out absolutely incredible amounts of power in a small space—maybe even in a craft.

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In spite of these hurdles, think tanks, such as the American Security Project, believe that fusion reactors in the 21st Century will provide low cost, carbon-free energy to the world, and predict that the United States can lead the world in finally realizing safe and stable nuclear fusion reactors.

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This latest design is the brainchild of the elusive Salvatore Cezar Pais, the inventor of the Navy’s bizarre and controversial room temperature superconductors, high energy electromagnetic field generators, and sci-fi-sounding propulsion technologies that The War Zone has previously reported on. The patent for Pais’ “Plasma Compression Fusion Device” was applied for on March 22, 2018, and was just published on September 26, 2019.

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Like the other bizarre Salvatore Pais patents we've covered previously, the extent to which this patent represents an operable, functioning, or even feasible technology isn't clear. The Navy has vouched for some of his designs in the past, however, going so far as to claim these inventions actually exist in an operable form and that they are needed for national security purposes, most notably to keep pace with adversaries like China. But unlike some of Pais’ patents, this application sailed through the United States Patent and Trademark Office without rejection and subsequent appeal.

Curiously, the patent states that “the invention will be discussed in a space, sea, or terrestrial environment” but notes that “this invention can be utilized for any type of application that requires the use of energy generation.” It is unclear what type of application may exist other than space, sea, or land.

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Salvatore Pais is clearly a busy man finding novel applications for high energy electromagnetic fields, and the Navy is patenting some truly science-fiction-like next-generation technologies that if realized, have the potential to change the course of technological development as we know it. Yes, some will likely wonder if this could be the power source that goes along with his other recent "UFO patents"—the engine needed to complete a seemingly otherworldly craft of some sort. The procession of these patents and their potential relation to one another is certainly intriguing, to say the least.

To be frank, we at The War Zone have no idea what is going on here. We have tried to get the Navy to give us some perspective on why these patents were filed, whether they are based on legitimate technology, and why they were ever made public. The Navy remains unwilling to discuss them. At the same time, nearly every physicist we have talked to thinks all of these patents are beyond the realm of known physics and are almost laughable in terms of viability. At the same time, all this is occurring as the Navy, and the Navy alone out of all of the branches of the U.S. military, continues to discuss the fact that its pilots are encountering unexplained aerial phenomena at an alarming rate.

With all this in mind, is the Navy building some sort of incredible craft based on science that remains foreign to the larger scientific community? Did they already do this years ago and are just slowly lifting the veil now? Are they clumsily trying to emulate what their pilots are seeing in the field, but can not yet fully explain? Could these patents just represent gross mismanagement of resources on the Navy's behalf? Or is this all some sort of elaborate disinformation play by the Navy—one that seems to have emerged right in step the rise of major peer-state competition from the likes of Russia and China, and the biggest expansion of advanced aerospace development programs in decades?

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Note we are talking black world science
Which is why white world scientists cannot account for it (see prior posts about the limits of known science)

The future should be interesting...