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re: Jimmy Kimmel Gets Choked Up on Show About Dead Lion

Posted on 7/29/15 at 9:07 am to
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 7/29/15 at 9:07 am to
quote:

you are familiar with the facts right?


the facts that legal, paid hunts in Africa for big game are highly regulated?
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
38578 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 9:09 am to
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Makes sense he would get choked up about a lion being killed in Africa.....

Nevermind the tons of people killed everyday by genocidal maniacs over there.

Glad to see this moron has his priorities straight.

Total joke.

For the record, I agree with this. Crying on national TV is more than a little ridiculous.
Posted by AUjim
America
Member since Dec 2012
3835 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 9:09 am to
quote:

the rhino hunt last year cost the hunter $350k, which was depressed due to the fear of outrage over the hunt. it probably would have cost 2-3x as much if there was no fear of an outrage. the rhino he was allowed to hunt was old and past breeding, but it was still the top dog and wouldn't allow any other male rhinos to breed with the female population. he had to be killed or removed and was going to be regardless FOR their populations to grow


If this guy was pissed about the lion, I could get behind him a bit. There should be some level of FUNDAMENTAL understanding of the real issue. This is one of the biggest points I think-People who know jack shite about what is actually going on, but getting mad because they are told that they should be.


Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481250 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 9:09 am to
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Wow, I know that makes sense to you but you are familiar with the facts right?

yes

this was a highly regulated hunt and the guides/american had a permit to hunt lions in that area

either a mistake was made or the group went outside of their permits intentionally and they shot a collared lion, which is illegal. we don't know which happened and which members of the group were aware right now because we don't know all the facts. nobody should make a judgment until all the facts are out.

either way, they tried to cover it up, which is inexcusable.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481250 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 9:10 am to
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People who know jack shite about what is actually going on, but getting mad because they are told that they should be.

exactly. and they act like they're experts, and that is scary
Posted by Chad504boy
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Member since Feb 2005
179949 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 9:14 am to
Dear Lion,

Spend all your time waiting
for that second chance
for a break that would make it okay
there's always some reason
to feel not good enough
and it's hard at the end of the day
I need some distraction
oh beautiful release
memories seep from my veins
let me be empty
and weightless and maybe
I'll find some peace tonight

in the arms of the angel
fly away from here
from this dark cold hotel room
and the endlessness that you fear
you are pulled from the wreckage
of your silent reverie
you're in the arms of the angel
may you find some comfort here

so tired of the straight line
and everywhere you turn
there's vultures and thieves at your back
and the storm keeps on twisting
you keep on building the lies
that you make up for all that you lack
it don't make no difference
escaping one last time
it's easier to believe in this sweet madness oh
this glorious sadness that brings me to my knees

in the arms of the angel
fly away from here
from this dark cold hotel room
and the endlessness that you fear
you are pulled from the wreckage
of your silent reverie
you're in the arms of the angel
may you find some comfort here
you're in the arms of the angel
may you find some comfort here
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
28324 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 9:16 am to
quote:

this was a highly regulated hunt and the guides/american had a permit to hunt lions in that area


Yes they had a permit, but if it was heavily regulated how did ole Cece get lured off the ranch and end up losing his head with a tracking collar on?

quote:

they tried to cover it up, which is inexcusable.


Yeah, nice little fact in evidence.
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
184738 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 9:17 am to
quote:

I don't get the purpose of trophy hunting. What good does it do you to kill something like a lion, elephant, rhino, or whatever else have you, that was not threatening you? You're not killing it for meat, that's for sure. What's the fun in shooting an elephant with a 50 cal when you're only going to take pictures with it? It's kind of sickening to me.



Some people just like to hunt. Not sure why people can't understand that others have hobbies you might not see eye to eye with.


FYI all of that meat from these hunts goes to feeding local villages and starving people.
Posted by blueboxer1119
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2013
9874 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 9:20 am to
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Why aren't you in Africa protecting these people from genocide?


You first.

I'm right behind you.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481250 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 9:31 am to
quote:

but if it was heavily regulated how did ole Cece get lured off the ranch and end up losing his head with a tracking collar on?

you know murder is highly regulated too, right? that doesn't prevent people from breaking the law via killing

Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
28324 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 9:38 am to
quote:

you know murder is highly regulated too, right?


Correct, and the state doesn't issue a permit on who you can kill.

I've got a depo at 10:30, but lets revisit this after the photos of the new alpha killing Cecil's cubs go viral.
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
163153 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 9:41 am to
I'm not outraged at all by this, but I would agree that what's the point of a hunt like this? I wouldn't even really call what you're doing there is even hunting. There seems to be little challenge or skill involved here, what enjoyment do you get out of it? I don't think its "sickening" just dumb.
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41888 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 9:43 am to
quote:

Some people just like to hunt.


yeah hunting is great, no problem with that..


but id hardly call what some of these guys do "hunting"
Posted by Rouge
Floston Paradise
Member since Oct 2004
138866 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 9:43 am to
i am looking for a tiger pelt to make a coat out of for LSU football games....akin to the Bear coat from Workaholics

anyone in the tiger coat game let me know

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Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
184738 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 9:43 am to
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I wouldn't even really call what you're doing there is even hunting. There seems to be little challenge or skill involved here, what enjoyment do you get out of it? I don't think its "sickening" just dumb.



It's like the people that hunt fenced in deer. Just seems pointless other than to say you killed something really big.

There's a ranch here that you can literally look at the buck you want to shoot beforehand and pay for it all upfront then they take you to stand and parade the deer in front of you so you can shoot it. This seems to be on that level and is pretty pointless to me but to each their own I guess.
This post was edited on 7/29/15 at 9:44 am
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
86750 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 9:45 am to
quote:

what enjoyment do you get out of it?


having a giant lion mount in your house?

I don't get it either, but some people are impressed with such things
Posted by Sev09
Nantucket
Member since Feb 2011
15876 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 10:49 am to
Fallon >>>>>> Kimmel
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481250 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 11:00 am to
yeah my defending the hunting-conservation paradigm doesn't mean that i am defending the hunters
Posted by SirWinston
Say NO to War
Member since Jul 2014
104464 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 11:03 am to
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exactly. and they act like they're experts, and that is scary





says the self-proclaimed expert on approximately 1,236 topics ranging from baseball's shift strategy to hunting regulations in Africa.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 7/29/15 at 11:06 am to
He clearly knows more than anyone on your side.
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