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re: Jeep death wobble
Posted on 2/9/23 at 8:53 am to Pvt Hudson
Posted on 2/9/23 at 8:53 am to Pvt Hudson
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It’s an easy fix. Replace front upper and lower control arms, track bar and sway bar links.
This.
Lifetime Jeep owner. Just did this in my son's jeep about 3 months ago.
But as other have said, if you buy an aftermarket Jeep w a lift its definitely a risk. Have it checked prior to purchase if you cant check it yourself.
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Posted on 2/9/23 at 8:57 am to sidewalkside
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Why did you now just put factory tires/wheels on and not take the $12K loss? This seems overly dramatic
Agree. Way easier solutions than giving up and selling a basically brand new car after drive off depreciation.
Not sure what prompts someone to post their Ls like that.
Posted on 2/9/23 at 9:00 am to frequent flyer
can wait to get it home they told me 3-6 months
Posted on 2/9/23 at 9:09 am to DarthRebel
I already had had bouts of bad driving anxiety after an accident on the top deck of a bridge a few years before. My pet was dying of cancer and I thought a new vehicle would be a nice distraction. Then it death wobbled driving home from the dealership, I couldn't go on the freeway to take my pet to the emergency vet. I shouldn't have bought the jeep in the first place. It was not brand new, but it had under 20k miles on it. It set off my driving anxiety again and undid all the therapy work I went through to get over the bridge accident, and after all that I wanted nothing to do with the stupid jeep. I could have gotten different tires but I wouldn't have been able to shake the memory of the death wobble and no longer trusted it to keep me safe at speed. It's probably hard to understand if you haven't had bridge or driving anxiety pop up in the wake of bad accidents.
Posted on 2/9/23 at 9:32 am to tigerfive
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I already had had bouts of bad driving anxiety after an accident on the top deck of a bridge a few years before. My pet was dying of cancer and I thought a new vehicle would be a nice distraction. Then it death wobbled driving home from the dealership, I couldn't go on the freeway to take my pet to the emergency vet. I shouldn't have bought the jeep in the first place. It was not brand new, but it had under 20k miles on it. It set off my driving anxiety again and undid all the therapy work I went through to get over the bridge accident, and after all that I wanted nothing to do with the stupid jeep. I could have gotten different tires but I wouldn't have been able to shake the memory of the death wobble and no longer trusted it to keep me safe at speed. It's probably hard to understand if you haven't had bridge or driving anxiety pop up in the wake of bad accidents.
Your story is about you and not about a Jeep.
Posted on 2/9/23 at 9:36 am to hey benji
I have a JK with over 76k miles. Lifted and 35" tires. I've never experienced it. No one I know has experienced it.
I love my JKU. I would not drive anything else.
I love my JKU. I would not drive anything else.
Posted on 2/9/23 at 9:46 am to hey benji
Jeep Death Wobble
Best I have seen explaining it. I have a 2004 Jeep Wrangler LJ and in 7 years have experienced one time and it was due to a clip that sheared off due to age.
Best I have seen explaining it. I have a 2004 Jeep Wrangler LJ and in 7 years have experienced one time and it was due to a clip that sheared off due to age.
This post was edited on 2/9/23 at 9:47 am
Posted on 2/9/23 at 9:46 am to Redbone
Every time I have experienced it was because of my own fault.
Trackbar bolt is the 99.9% of the reason a stock Jeep would ever have the problem. 100% the reason a modified Jeep will have the problem.
Once you get it, replacing all the bushings/bars/joints will mask the problem and prolong the issue.
Jeep, in all their wisdom, used a 14MM trackbar bolt, but the hole on the chassis is 9/16"
Trackbar bolt is the 99.9% of the reason a stock Jeep would ever have the problem. 100% the reason a modified Jeep will have the problem.
Once you get it, replacing all the bushings/bars/joints will mask the problem and prolong the issue.
Jeep, in all their wisdom, used a 14MM trackbar bolt, but the hole on the chassis is 9/16"
Posted on 2/9/23 at 9:49 am to fightin tigers
Death wobble is a dumb term given it but it is very high percentage that you will not die from it.
Posted on 2/9/23 at 9:51 am to DarthRebel
I was explaining why I was OK on taking the $12k loss. Since ppl were like why didn't you just put different tires on it. My experience was about Jeep death wobble at high speed. Actually it was almost every time I got over 4o-45mph and hit a small bump or change in roadway surfaces. Next time I'll add a TLDR for you.
This post was edited on 2/9/23 at 9:52 am
Posted on 2/9/23 at 9:51 am to hey benji
I cant figure out why someone would get a solid front axle vehicle for a daily driver, unless you live out west and like to climb rocks. Indy front suspensions can do 95% of what a solid axle can do and are 500% better on the road.
Posted on 2/9/23 at 9:57 am to hey benji
It's an issue sometimes for those that have it lifted with oversized mud tires and do alot offroading.
Posted on 2/9/23 at 10:03 am to msap9020
It really doesn't matter whether it's lifted or not, It's mostly about it being a solid front axle.
Stock jeeps can experience the same thing.
Stock jeeps can experience the same thing.
Posted on 2/9/23 at 10:11 am to frequent flyer
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It is a big issue on the F-250 though, especially as they age
This first happened to me in Colorado…I was driving from the mountains to the airport and it happened like 6 times in 80 or so miles. I had driven up a really bumpy road for one of the hikes and I think I bent or damaged the steel in the tires because after changing the suspension components it didn’t fix it. Getting new tires and an alignment got it sorted out…..for a while. I drive 1200 miles back to Houston and had no issues…then it suddenly started doing it in left Turns when I hit a bump. I could reduce the frequency with alignments but it never fixed it. Finally I bought a steering stabilizer that bolted to the gear housing on fh front axle and had dampener pistons going to each wheel, and it hasn’t done it since. It was like a $300 part and took less than an hour to install.
Anyone with an F-250 with this issue please go get one of these.
LINK to part
Posted on 2/9/23 at 10:17 am to hey benji
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Jeep death wobble
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I'm thinking of going to Carmax and doing their 24 hour free test drive
99% sure you won't experience that "death wobble' in 24 hours unless you how to induce it.
If you want a non-factory jeep, accept the fact that you'll have to MAINTAIN it. That means adjusting the suspension as it wears.
Posted on 2/9/23 at 10:19 am to XenScott
quote:one benefit was manual hubs, but they don’t even put manual hubs on them any more.
I cant figure out why someone would get a solid front axle vehicle for a daily driver, unless you live out west and like to climb rocks. Indy front suspensions can do 95% of what a solid axle can do and are 500% better on the road.
Posted on 2/9/23 at 10:24 am to fightin tigers
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Trackbar bolt is the 99.9% of the reason a stock Jeep would ever have the problem. 100% the reason a modified Jeep will have the problem.
Once you get it, replacing all the bushings/bars/joints will mask the problem and prolong the issue.
The trackbar bolt is a major issue for certain models, but it can cause other parts to go bad prior to changing that out. So, then you're chasing the problem. Once you experience a real death wobble, you can just cut bait and change the drag link and ball joints AND the trackbar bolts and maybe the trackbar. Might even have shock issues if the wobble happened enough to damage those.
Posted on 2/9/23 at 10:29 am to Boudreaux35
No doubt. A few bouts with death wobble is going to destroy some bushings.
Fwiw, even with these worn bushings (and a blown heim joint) I didn't have death wobble.
Fwiw, even with these worn bushings (and a blown heim joint) I didn't have death wobble.
This post was edited on 2/9/23 at 10:33 am
Posted on 2/9/23 at 10:47 am to hey benji
quote:This will not happen on a Wrangler you buy from CarMax. CarMax does not sell modified vehicles on their front lot (Retail).
I'm thinking of going to Carmax and doing their 24 hour free test drive to see for myself
They'll buy a modified one from you, but will sell it at auction (wholesale).
You only have the wobble on lifted Wranglers or maybe a Wrangler that is high mileage and not maintained. You won't find that at CarMax.
Posted on 2/9/23 at 11:36 am to Pvt Hudson
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It’s an easy fix. Replace front upper and lower control arms, track bar and sway bar links.
About 3 hours of work and $400 if you do it yourself.
I would add a good steering stabilizer shock to that list if you are going to run a lift on it. I replaced mine on my lifted tj and never had a wobble again (just a whole lot of other crap to constantly fix).
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