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re: JBE suggests broad COVID vaccine mandates after FDA approval
Posted on 8/6/21 at 9:33 am to Bonkers119
Posted on 8/6/21 at 9:33 am to Bonkers119
quote:do you have a daughter? If so, did you make her get the Guardisil vaccine?
But you're okay with your children getting the recommend vaccines needed as they grow up? All of a sudden a vaccination comes out for a deadly virus that has been going around the world for the last 18 months, and that's where you draw the line? Because that's completely logical
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Posted on 8/6/21 at 9:34 am to lsupride87
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What’s wrong with this? Honestly?
1) The vaccine is still experimental regardless of what the FDA rubber stamps under enormous outside pressure.
2) There’s a real risk of illness and injury when taking it.
3) The vaccine’s efficacy is spotty at best.
4) I don’t believe an upper respiratory infection has ever had a mandated vaccine.
I’ve been vaccinated by the way, but it no way think it should be mandated.
This post was edited on 8/6/21 at 9:35 am
Posted on 8/6/21 at 9:35 am to lsupride87
No. The government shouldn’t be allowed to force anyone to do something that isn’t encoded in law by the legislature. Especially when it comes to medication, as that is essentially what vaccines are, medication.
Posted on 8/6/21 at 9:35 am to The Pirate King
quote:
1) The vaccine is still experimental regardless of what the FDA rubber stamps under enormous outside pressure.
2) There’s a real risk of illness and injury when taking it.
3) The vaccine’s efficacy is spotty at best.
4) I don’t believe an upper respiratory infection has ever had a mandated vaccine
I’ve been vaccinated by the way, but it no way think it should be mandated.
Quoting before you come back and start deleting your terrible hot takes again.
Posted on 8/6/21 at 9:36 am to BluegrassBelle
None of what I said is false. Feel free to debunk though.
Posted on 8/6/21 at 9:41 am to Day Man
quote:I suppose my point if there was one was to say that this is a thread about the FDA approval and then someone starts talking about righteousness.
Do you not have principles? Is there anything you believe in enough to stand up for solely on the basis of what you believe is right and wrong regardless of the severity of the issue?
Posted on 8/6/21 at 9:41 am to CarRamrod
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link?
Here you go
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“In Florida, your personal choice regarding vaccinations will be protected and no business or government entity will be able to deny you services based on your decision.
Posted on 8/6/21 at 9:41 am to Powerman
The federal government can’t be party to a lawsuit
Posted on 8/6/21 at 9:42 am to lsupride87
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But see, this is you admitting you have a threshold in which you are for govt mandates.
I addressed this earlier. You are confusing wanting limited government with no government. There is a need for SOME small government in my opinion.
And I meant that it would be hard to undo those vaccine mandates because of the ramifications of suddenly taking them away when they have been part of our society for so long. We would have to carefully study the consequences of taking them away. I said hard, not impossible.
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If covid-19 had a 25% mortality rate in children would people now support forced vaccines?
Yes, a 25% is a big deal obviously. If you take the exact same scenario as COVID and replace it with 25% mortality, that would be enough for me personally to say Yes, it should be mandated. Obviously that can change with the scenario though.
But that isn't our situation...it's FAR below that.
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That’s my entire point, most people have a point they are completely fine with what the govt can intrude on
No, you started your argument in this thread chastising people who are hesitant about wanting a vaccine that seems to be losing effectiveness in real world applications for a virus that will not have a substantial effect on the vast majority of people.
Posted on 8/6/21 at 9:42 am to thermal9221
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What will be the reasoning for people not getting it once fda clears it? That was one of the reasons why people didn’t get it.
Normal FDA approval takes 10-12 years (average). Just animal testing usually takes about a year, Phase I testing takes another year, Phase II takes two years and Phase III takes three years. So not including anything else (like pre-clinicals) that's 7 years of testing before getting to Phase IV (very large-scale use, which is essentially what we have now).
These vaccines didn't even exist a year and a half ago yet we've been in a quasi-Phase IV test for months now because of the FDA fast-tracking it under emergency use rules (the PREP Act means the pharmas can't be sued for unforeseen side-effects).
One of the burgeoning issues of the vaccine is distorted menstrual cycles and long-lasting lymph node swelling in women. Normally, when a lymph node is swollen for longer than two weeks you're urged to see a doctor. The vaccines have caused node-swelling for three months yet at least one doctor I saw quoted in an article stated that swelling for a month or more is common and to not worry about it. It's becoming enough of an issue that the NIH is starting to look into it. And, again, we aren't even a year and a half of these vaccine existing.
Thalidomide was a drug developed in the 50's. It went through 7 years of testing before getting approval in Europe in 1957. Tens of thousands of women took it for nausea, etc. It was in early testing here in the US by 1961 when it was found to cause a high level of miscarriages and birth defects (google: thalidomide babies). Thalidomide had zero effect on animals during animal testing.
Until this drug has a solid 10-12 years of testing/use, I'm still considering it "experimental" and there's no way I will allow an experimental drug to be injected into me to prevent something with a ~99% survivability rate.
Posted on 8/6/21 at 9:47 am to Clark W Griswold
The logic people use to not get a vaccine is stupid."
Said the narrow minded jackass
Said the narrow minded jackass
Posted on 8/6/21 at 9:52 am to lsupride87
quote:Why is it your business or place to tell anyone whether or not they need to get a vaccine? This is a personal, private choice that has nothing to do with you.
Have you checked out the current survival rate for mumps which they are required to take?
Posted on 8/6/21 at 9:54 am to BallsEleven
quote:No, I chastised people enraged the govt is mandating a vaccine
No, you started your argument in this thread chastising people who are hesitant about wanting a vaccine that seems to be losing effectiveness in real world applications for a virus that will not have a substantial effect on the vast majority of people.
The truth is, people just don’t want them to mandate “this vaccine” because they are personally against it. You made my entire point in this thread. You are for vaccine mandates when you personally find it necessary. I’m not calling you out because I am the same way in nature
Posted on 8/6/21 at 9:55 am to BallsEleven
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The survival rate in the age group does not support making it mandatory for them.
Dumbest thing you rubes quote is survival rate as of life or death is the only option and no in between. Ever heard of protect thy neighbor in an effort to prevent spread? Yeah a 17 y/o might not die or have long term side effects but the person he gave it to cause of his selfishness sure got fricked. So many hard headed fricks in this thread, Christ
Posted on 8/6/21 at 9:55 am to Bard
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It’s a bit of a myth that the COVID 19 vaccines were developed quickly. In fact, the COVID vaccines in use now were ready to go in January 2020. This was the result of a challenge a few years ago for researchers to develop a vaccine technology that would be able to produce a vaccine within 16 weeks to a new virus. And about four or five different technologies won.
One was the University of Queensland vaccine, another was the Oxford University (now AstraZeneca) viral vector vaccine type technology, as well as the mRNA vaccines which now include Pfizer and Moderna. So they were kind of ready to go. And within a few days or weeks of the genetic structure of the coronavirus being known, the vaccine researchers and companies were designing COVID-specific vaccines, testing them, and then putting them into clinical trials.
The clinical trials did go quickly but that was because there was so much COVID around. There were so many people in the world exposed to coronavirus that the vaccine developers were able to recruit large numbers of people in an unprecedented short space of time. And because participants were exposed to the virus in such large numbers within a very short time, they knew whether the vaccines worked. That’s why they were able to do it so quickly. It’s a process that normally takes years, because it’s very slow to recruit people. In addition, there’s normally not much virus around. So, it takes a while to find out whether or not the vaccine works. In the case of COVID that happened in a very short space of time because unfortunately we’re in the middle of this vast pandemic.
So, in fact, these vaccines have been approved with roughly the same amount of data that a vaccine is normally approved of. And these rare side effects that you see now, would have normally taken two or three years to appear and may not have been noticed at all.
Posted on 8/6/21 at 9:56 am to Jimmy2shoes
JBE can suck these nuts
Posted on 8/6/21 at 10:02 am to gadknot
Oh yeah? Well those retard researchers don't have a time machine so they don't know shite! I personally don't use anything made in the last 20 years because it could give you cancer! iPhones? Yeah right. I call them "AIDS in a rectangle phones" because those little bastards will shoot some HIV right in your earhole. Untested trash.
My '01 Chevy? Brand new to me, just released for use. New cars could straight up turn you into a pretzel and no one would ever know because Big Auto's lobbyists keep it covered up. My cousin got fibromyalgia from driving a new car and Facebook banned him for misinformation when he tried to tell the world.
Enjoy being a sheep though
My '01 Chevy? Brand new to me, just released for use. New cars could straight up turn you into a pretzel and no one would ever know because Big Auto's lobbyists keep it covered up. My cousin got fibromyalgia from driving a new car and Facebook banned him for misinformation when he tried to tell the world.
Enjoy being a sheep though
Posted on 8/6/21 at 10:02 am to Bard
All that logic just to show your true stupidity and selfishness in the last paragraph. Sad and revealing
Posted on 8/6/21 at 10:02 am to lsupride87
quote:that has nothing to do with mandate a bakery bake a cake for some twinks.
Here you go
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“In Florida, your personal choice regarding vaccinations will be protected and no business or government entity will be able to deny you services based on your decision.
you are horrible arguing your point. its almost like you are .....crazy. Like that psycho dude dressed like a woman in the starwars shop.
Posted on 8/6/21 at 10:04 am to Ingeniero
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Oh yeah? Well those retard researchers don't have a time machine so they don't know shite! I personally don't use anything made in the last 20 years because it could give you cancer! iPhones? Yeah right. I call them "AIDS in a rectangle phones" because those little bastards will shoot some HIV right in your earhole. Untested trash.
My '01 Chevy? Brand new to me, just released for use. New cars could straight up turn you into a pretzel and no one would ever know because Big Auto's lobbyists keep it covered up. My cousin got fibromyalgia from driving a new car and Facebook banned him for misinformation when he tried to tell the world.
Enjoy being a sheep though
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This is a troll right? Has to be. If not, bless your heart
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