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re: JBE drops the hammer

Posted on 4/12/16 at 8:04 pm to
Posted by StealthCalais11
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Posted on 4/12/16 at 8:04 pm to
I would assume the logical thing to do would have them already grandfathered in, but we are talking about Louisiana here.
Posted by BRgetthenet
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Posted on 4/12/16 at 8:04 pm to
How many Southern freshman had a 26 on their ACT?
Posted by ksayetiger
Centenary Gents
Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 4/12/16 at 8:04 pm to
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Minimum ACT 26


So basically zero funding then.





Wut
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 4/12/16 at 8:05 pm to
What will southern do?
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 4/12/16 at 8:05 pm to

quote:

How many Southern freshman had a 26 on their ACT?


Don't know. How many?
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 4/12/16 at 8:06 pm to
Support.
Posted by GEAUXT
Member since Nov 2007
30140 posts
Posted on 4/12/16 at 8:06 pm to
JBE is a total douche, but this is a good move. TOPS should never have had such low standards
Posted by member12
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Member since May 2008
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Posted on 4/12/16 at 8:06 pm to
Making TOPS that selective means that it will be even more of an "LSU" scholarship and thus more difficult to defend politically. JBE's supporters want TOPS gone completely.

As far as the governor.....JBE is demanding cuts to TOPS, higher Ed, and hospitals while putting the state on the hook for Medicaid expansion. He's threatened LSU football at least twice and it's only April.

He'll be a one term governor if he's lucky.
This post was edited on 4/12/16 at 8:07 pm
Posted by FlyingTiger06
Bossier City, LA
Member since Nov 2004
1945 posts
Posted on 4/12/16 at 8:06 pm to
quote:

Minimum ACT 26


quote:

With the ACT score as low as it was, it was putting people in college that had no hope of actually getting a worthwhile degree. A lot of them would just flunk out/leave and the taxpayer's investment goes up in smoke.


I graduated high school in '95 and was on an ROTC scholarship, so I have no idea what the min ACT score was for TOPS then, nor do I know what it was recently. However, either the ACT is easier now or this second quote is ridiculous. I made a 25 and graduated LSU easily.
Posted by AbitaFan08
Boston, MA
Member since Apr 2008
27724 posts
Posted on 4/12/16 at 8:07 pm to
I hope this is true, but can we get a single link?
Posted by recruitnik
Campus
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 4/12/16 at 8:07 pm to
quote:

One term failure.


After you voted in a moron to two terms, this is quite funny. Isn't the whole point to cut the budget, and now that the budget is being cut, you're pissed?



Yeah, TOPS should be cut if it meant idiots like you got degrees on my dime.
Posted by urinetrouble
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 4/12/16 at 8:07 pm to
Aren't a lot of LSU baseball players on TOPS?
Posted by Jcorye1
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Posted on 4/12/16 at 8:08 pm to
quote:

I graduated high school in '95 and was on an ROTC scholarship, so I have no idea what the min ACT score was for TOPS then, nor do I know what it was recently. However, either the ACT is easier now or this second quote is ridiculous. I made a 25 and graduated LSU easily.



It's currently at 20.

Also, not only are you applying a single person to a much larger group, you're using data over 20 years old.
This post was edited on 4/12/16 at 8:11 pm
Posted by foj1981
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 4/12/16 at 8:10 pm to
Sorry don't have the link but F. King Alexander sent an email out last this afternoon to the entire student body
Posted by bayoumuscle21
St. George
Member since Jan 2012
4866 posts
Posted on 4/12/16 at 8:10 pm to
quote:


I'm interested to see if this will be spun as a war on minorities


Yes, even though it is same requirement for everyone. If there is a complaint on either/any side, it is an admittance of less overall intelligence, drive and/or both.

I've always thought affirmative action was racist against blacks because of this reason.
Posted by AbitaFan08
Boston, MA
Member since Apr 2008
27724 posts
Posted on 4/12/16 at 8:10 pm to
Screenshot of the email at least?

Edit: not questioning you, would just like to see something official on it out of my own curiosity
This post was edited on 4/12/16 at 8:12 pm
Posted by LaBR4
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 4/12/16 at 8:11 pm to
quote:

Aren't a lot of LSU baseball players on TOPS?


Eh, for baseball it does play a small part for the partial scholarships/low number of scholarships given,etc. A few are.
This post was edited on 4/12/16 at 8:12 pm
Posted by GeauxTigers123
Member since Feb 2007
2481 posts
Posted on 4/12/16 at 8:11 pm to
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Edwards' proposal cuts the scholarship by $183.2 million next fall and spring, leaving just $110 million available for the program. If fully funded, TOPS was expected to cost $298 million.

Under the current TOPS law, the ACT score required to get the scholarship automatically goes up if there is a funding shortfall in the program. An $183.2 million shortfall in TOPS would mean a 26 ACT score would be needed to get the scholarship. A few poor students would also qualify for the scholarship with a 25 ACT score, because of the way the law works.

If the new ACT cutoff went into place because of budget cuts, it's estimated that around 17,400 students would qualify for TOPS next fall and spring. That's significantly down from the 51,000 students who receive the scholarship this year.
Posted by FlyingTiger06
Bossier City, LA
Member since Nov 2004
1945 posts
Posted on 4/12/16 at 8:11 pm to
quote:

It's currently at 20.


Then I think a jump to 26 is pretty extreme. I could see a jump to 22 and at MOST up to 24. I'm no lib, but to me this is going to really hurt kids from small schools (like I went to) in rural areas who are never exposed to things that show up on the ACT, particularly in math and science.
Posted by LaBR4
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
52904 posts
Posted on 4/12/16 at 8:12 pm to
My question is, if TOPS gets cut back, who is going to pay to educate Texas' workforce?

Or are most of these Louisiana college grads all staying in La, surely not too many move to Houston or Dallas...or places like Atlanta?

This post was edited on 4/12/16 at 8:23 pm
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