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Posted on 4/27/16 at 8:33 am to NoSaint
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i think you would be surprised - im not searchinng right now but the basic data scrapes show a pretty large percentage a whole homes listed year round --and a lot of those owners are listing multiple homes.
A lot of the New Orleans Air BnB are not home owners just looking to rent their homes out on the weekend or to make an extra buck. A lot of the rentals are owned by companies or individuals who own multiple properties just to be used for Air BnB and they then lease it to someone else who does the listing pretending to live there.
Posted on 4/27/16 at 8:35 am to TheOcean
Economical? Sure. Convenient? Nah.
Posted on 4/27/16 at 8:37 am to TheOcean
Sure which is why its popular.
But I do not believe it has increased tourism. It just a shift away from hotels and B&Bs. People still would travel without Airbnb.
But I do not believe it has increased tourism. It just a shift away from hotels and B&Bs. People still would travel without Airbnb.
Posted on 4/27/16 at 8:38 am to Salmon
Ah ok, so it's purely a matter of bureacratic red tape meant to diminish choices and funnel revenue-generating individuals into venues which hand over taxes from the exchange to the government in return for the government stifling their competition and allowing them to continue charging outrageous rates by virtue of eliminating more affordable alternatives.
It seems like we're heading in a direction where private exchanges of money between two people will be illegal at some point in the future, when one can't even let someone crash on their own couch for $20 bucks without breaking the law.
Are people still allowed to hire a neighborhood kid to mow their lawn for 20 bucks or have the tax-paying lawn care specialists who charge $45 whined enough to have that outlawed?
It seems like we're heading in a direction where private exchanges of money between two people will be illegal at some point in the future, when one can't even let someone crash on their own couch for $20 bucks without breaking the law.
Are people still allowed to hire a neighborhood kid to mow their lawn for 20 bucks or have the tax-paying lawn care specialists who charge $45 whined enough to have that outlawed?
Posted on 4/27/16 at 8:39 am to JohnnyKilroy
Convenient? Definitely. If I'm going to New Orleans I can rent a house/apartment and bring my car instead of having to pay $20-$30/day to park my car at a hotel. And I can easily do laundry or cook whatever I want.
Just a few things I can think of off the top of my head.
Just a few things I can think of off the top of my head.
This post was edited on 4/27/16 at 8:40 am
Posted on 4/27/16 at 8:40 am to Salmon
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everytime we have stayed at an Airbnb, it has been in a neighborhood, not always located next to tourist activities
I gathered that. I guess the point I was trying to make is that, of course there is going to be a surge in Airbnb rentals in close proximity to a major event happening, of which, some homeowners probably have been profiting for numerous years before Airbnb was started.
In short, Airbnb has offered what has always been happening, but in a more convenient way.
Posted on 4/27/16 at 8:40 am to TheOcean
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If I'm going to New Orleans
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cook whatever I want
You're doing it wrong.
Although I agree that AirBnB is the more convenient and affordable way to travel most of the time.
Posted on 4/27/16 at 8:41 am to Sneaky__Sally
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They hotel developers pay more for properties with proper zoning and also look at your next hotel receipt and see how high the special hotel tax is.
its up to 15.75% plus occupancy tax which is a sliding scale of $1-$3(?) based on the size of the hotel
a shift out of that adds up fast. if you just take a bar napkin approach here - at a composite rate of about $150 average across the city/year -- each night shifted out of hotels and into airbnb is $25.
and thats ignoring the rate drops based on tons of new inventory dropping revenue. (and ignores things like special event/convention rebates/commissions that sometimes cycle back into the local pool depending on the structure).
whether you are pro/anti airbnb -- decisions definitely need to be made on a comprehensive short term lodging plan. if it means assimilating airbnb into the existing structure, or a brand new approach being built ground up....
This post was edited on 4/27/16 at 8:41 am
Posted on 4/27/16 at 8:41 am to ManBearTiger
You are against zoning ordinance? lets see how you feel about that when I decide to build a paper mill next to your house.
Posted on 4/27/16 at 8:41 am to TitleistProV1X
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Or maybe they can bust some for parking with their cars facing against traffic
This absolutely needs to be enforced. It is dangerous and just plain dumb.
Posted on 4/27/16 at 8:41 am to TitleistProV1X
quote:sorry, I'm not saying I'm for this, I was just responding to the statement "there is no way to police this"
Yes because that's exactly what the city needs to be doing with its very limited resources
Posted on 4/27/16 at 8:42 am to TheOcean
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Convenient? Definitely. If I'm going to New Orleans I can rent a house/apartment and bring my car instead of having to pay $20-$30/day to park my car at a hotel. And I can easily do laundry or cook whatever I want. Just a few things I can think of off the top of my head.
Those are economic benefits.
Lol at vacationing in nola and cooking your own food.
Posted on 4/27/16 at 8:44 am to Sneaky__Sally
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You are against zoning ordinance? lets see how you feel about that when I decide to build a paper mill next to your house.
That's obviously the same thing as allowing guests in your house for short periods of time in exchange for a previously agreed upon price and conditions.
Water-tight point my man.
Posted on 4/27/16 at 8:44 am to NoSaint
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if it means assimilating airbnb into the existing structure,
I think it should be assimilated and just taxed at the same rate, the airbnb owner's can then either up-charge on their rate for taxes or just stat all inclusive. Don't know how to enforce it though.
LINK
^Seems to be a pretty good rule although, agian, enforcement would be an issue
Posted on 4/27/16 at 8:45 am to ManBearTiger
Ok, how about they build new motel 6 next to your home.
- the primary issue most people are against isn't the person renting out their home four times a year, it is the homes that are now used exclusively for short term rentals
- the primary issue most people are against isn't the person renting out their home four times a year, it is the homes that are now used exclusively for short term rentals
This post was edited on 4/27/16 at 8:47 am
Posted on 4/27/16 at 8:48 am to Jim Rockford
If you want to tax rentals like other hotels and b&b's, fine. I can see the fairness in that.
Although I think it should be a minimum amount of rental time for it to be considered taxable. Like an owner using the house solely for the purpose of renting it out as opposed to a couple wanting to make a few bucks when leaving town.
This is an asinine argument though. I'm sorry but living in Nola the last thing I'm losing sleep over at night are tourists staying in the neighborhood.
Although I think it should be a minimum amount of rental time for it to be considered taxable. Like an owner using the house solely for the purpose of renting it out as opposed to a couple wanting to make a few bucks when leaving town.
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Noise complaints and safety in neighborhoods are other issues.
"I find that it shuffles people through quite constantly. Some folks are less conscious of the fact that they're in a neighborhood," said Jon Housley.
This is an asinine argument though. I'm sorry but living in Nola the last thing I'm losing sleep over at night are tourists staying in the neighborhood.
Posted on 4/27/16 at 8:48 am to JohnnyKilroy
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Those are economic benefits.
They're both economic and convenient benefits. I don't think I need to explain why being able to bring my car/drive to NOLA would be convenient. And some people aren't fans of eating out every meal. Being able to cook is a convenience (and an economic benefit).
Posted on 4/27/16 at 8:48 am to slackster
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Is it though? For Christ's sake, they have a website and app - Airbnb.com. Look for locations that are available, then look to see available dates, viola, you have your perpetrators. The "problem" with enforcement is that no one that matters really gives a shite.
as if new Orleans police weren't already super busy, particularly during events where airbnb would popular.
Posted on 4/27/16 at 8:49 am to ManBearTiger
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That's obviously the same thing as allowing guests in your house for short periods of time in exchange for a previously agreed upon price and conditions.
Water-tight point my man.
what if that home has 12 bed rooms that you rent individually daily to anyone off the street? Or more?
the no zoning issue gets dicey fast. i dont think you see this thread if it is individuals doing a weekend here and there, or a spare bedroom but if a company buys 8 houses on your block for full time rental -- the discussion is going to happen.
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