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re: Jazzfest heightens Airbnb tensions
Posted on 4/27/16 at 8:17 am to Jim Rockford
Posted on 4/27/16 at 8:17 am to Jim Rockford
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"I think it should be regulated from city to city when you have a housing shortage like here and the locals are trying to find a place to live," said Giovanni Bommarito.
Screw this commie POS.
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Posted on 4/27/16 at 8:18 am to Salmon
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Renters don't normally contribute to the neighborhood.
True.
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So Airbnb renters certainly don't, and I know I wouldn't be too fond of an ever revolving group of people that I do not know next to my home
Also true, but I imagine you have the brains to realize not to buy and inhabit property next to a venue that hosts one of the years biggest music festivals.
Posted on 4/27/16 at 8:18 am to Salmon
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So Airbnb renters certainly don't, and I know I wouldn't be too fond of an ever revolving group of people that I do not know next to my home.
I agree with you, every time that I've used airbnb it was a family who was just going out of town for the weekend, or they had an apartment attached to their home. To me that's different than someone only using the home for airbnb rentals.
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as long as it doesn't harm or affect others and their property. I don't believe there should be extra tax or regulation
This pretty much hits it on the head for me.
Posted on 4/27/16 at 8:19 am to Jim Rockford
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renting a property for less than 30 days in New Orleans is illegal
What does this even mean?
Posted on 4/27/16 at 8:20 am to scottyd
Seems like airbnb is a net positive. You have investors buying up and using real estate (and paying property taxes/other taxes). You have more tourists coming to the city, renting the property, and spending money in the city.
I imagine most of the people that are wanting some sort of regulation are the get off my lawn types that can't see the bigger picture.
I imagine most of the people that are wanting some sort of regulation are the get off my lawn types that can't see the bigger picture.
This post was edited on 4/27/16 at 8:21 am
Posted on 4/27/16 at 8:21 am to REG861
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regulating it some = taxes for a city that sorely bleeds revenue
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Posted on 4/27/16 at 8:21 am to ManBearTiger
It means that you aren't supposed to rent out your property for less than 30 days at a time...
Posted on 4/27/16 at 8:22 am to ManBearTiger
Renting residential property for a short period of time (less than 30 days) is usually not a legally conforming use depending on the zoning ordinance.
Posted on 4/27/16 at 8:24 am to TheOcean
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You have more tourists coming to the city
i dont think thats totally true. it seems to be shifting people out of taxable lodging, not creating new demand
Posted on 4/27/16 at 8:24 am to ThatMakesSense
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Also true, but I imagine you have the brains to realize not to buy and inhabit property next to a venue that hosts one of the years biggest music festivals.
I was just discussing Airbnbs in general
everytime we have stayed at an Airbnb, it has been in a neighborhood, not always located next to tourist activities
Posted on 4/27/16 at 8:25 am to Sneaky__Sally
I really am having a hard time grasping how renting a hotel room for 2 nights isn't in violation of this 30-day residential renting requirement. Does one not take up residence for 2 nights in a hotel room? What's the fundamental difference that justifies the legality of one but not the other?
Posted on 4/27/16 at 8:25 am to NoSaint
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i dont think thats totally true. it seems to be shifting people out of taxable lodging, not creating new demand
I hate staying in hotels. I'm more likely to travel when I can rent out an apartment/house and can cook for myself/have my own space. I'm sure the same goes for many tourists/travelers. Not to mention airbnb is often much, much cheaper than staying in a hotel.
Posted on 4/27/16 at 8:26 am to TitleistProV1X
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I'd like to see statistics on how many places in Nola are strictly being rented as short term rentals. I would think you'd need to be very close to the quarter to have it rented out every weekend. I know that only 38% of all homes are rented, not sure how many are short term. The reason for the spike during JF is people that live near the Fairgrounds are making good money by renting out their place for two weekends. This doesn't mean that they're permanent short term rentals. Besides, what tourist wants to stay near the Fairgrounds outside of Jazzfest weekend?
i think you would be surprised - im not searchinng right now but the basic data scrapes show a pretty large percentage a whole homes listed year round --and a lot of those owners are listing multiple homes.
Posted on 4/27/16 at 8:26 am to ManBearTiger
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I really am having a hard time grasping how renting a hotel room for 2 nights isn't in violation of this 30-day residential renting requirement. Does one not take up residence for 2 nights in a hotel room? What's the fundamental difference that justifies the legality of one but not the other?
zoning and permits
the hotels are paying different taxes
Posted on 4/27/16 at 8:28 am to TheOcean
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I hate staying in hotels. I'm more likely to travel when I can rent out an apartment/house and can cook for myself/have my own space. I'm sure the same goes for many tourists/travelers. Not to mention airbnb is often much, much cheaper than staying in a hotel.
the data is tough, as airbnb doesnt share much of anything, but i do not think you are seeing large jumps in tourism due to airbnb.
i know the data is lagging and spotty at this point -- but while there are certainly individuals that would ONLY travel to a city if they can get a whole house, i do not see those as the majority. From on the ground feedback (which i get is anecdotal) it seems much more a shift than a new demand generator.
Posted on 4/27/16 at 8:30 am to NoSaint
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but while there are certainly individuals that would ONLY travel to a city if they can get a whole house, i do not see those as the majority.
Probably less than 2% of all travelers. shite, probably less than 1%.
Posted on 4/27/16 at 8:30 am to NoSaint
I don't think it's the majority, but I would definitely bet some money that there's been a net spike in tourism solely because of airbnb.
Posted on 4/27/16 at 8:31 am to TheOcean
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I would definitely bet some money that there's been a net spike in tourism solely because of airbnb.
I don't see this at all
Posted on 4/27/16 at 8:32 am to TheOcean
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don't think it's the majority, but I would definitely bet some money that there's been a net spike in tourism solely because of airbnb.
what would you quantify that spike as vs shift? if you had to take a shot in the dark.....
Posted on 4/27/16 at 8:32 am to ManBearTiger
Its all about zoning ordinance. Look at what the hotels are zoned for (land use) relative to the residential use / short term / airbnb type stuff on the following tool (go to layers and hit zoning)
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They hotel developers pay more for properties with proper zoning and also look at your next hotel receipt and see how high the special hotel tax is.
LINK
They hotel developers pay more for properties with proper zoning and also look at your next hotel receipt and see how high the special hotel tax is.
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