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re: Jason Williams Jury Deliberating

Posted on 7/26/22 at 4:46 pm to
Posted by Dizz
Member since May 2008
15570 posts
Posted on 7/26/22 at 4:46 pm to
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No matter the verdict, Orleans Parish loses.



Not true, either of the two people who would take over the DA's office would actually prosecute people.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
124026 posts
Posted on 7/26/22 at 4:48 pm to
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How is he going to survive in the lawyer social circles by basically throwing his partner under the bus?


By being black
Posted by DomincDecoco
of no fixed abode
Member since Oct 2018
11482 posts
Posted on 7/26/22 at 4:50 pm to
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By being black


sad but true
Posted by Dizz
Member since May 2008
15570 posts
Posted on 7/26/22 at 4:54 pm to
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How is he going to survive in the lawyer social circles by basically throwing his partner under the bus?


He will be fine because everyone in his circle does the same stuff with the amount of cash they get paid and they are lucky it isn't them.
Posted by Big EZ Tiger
Member since Jul 2010
25287 posts
Posted on 7/26/22 at 5:22 pm to
The biggest problem in the case is that the tax preparer cheated on his own taxes and cheated on taxes for seemingly everyone he represented, so the jury could possibly believe that he just did it on his own and it wasn't deliberate cheating by Williams. Also, the buffoon also lied about being a CPA.

Of course, Williams had his partner deal with him all the time (which in my mind shows that Williams knew exactly what he was doing). It's like he was trying to avoid any contact with the guy, but yet the guy was doing his taxes (seems like a major responsibility for someone you have zero verifiable contact with).

So Williams could be found guilty on some charges, but could possibly avoid the most serious felony charge. Dude listed yoga classes and music streaming as business expenses. He's definitely guilty of being a typical New Orleans politician.
This post was edited on 7/26/22 at 8:59 pm
Posted by MMauler
Primary This RINO Traitor
Member since Jun 2013
22516 posts
Posted on 7/26/22 at 5:25 pm to
I’d have to actually see the jury to make any prediction. I won a good deal of money on the O.J. Simpson verdict because I bet several people as much as they wanted to bet that OJ would get off right after they picked the jury. anyone with even a modicum of common sense knew that there was no way the jury was going to go back into their neighborhoods after convicting OJ. It wasn’t gonna happen. But, a bunch of liberal idiots I was working with didn’t think OJ had a chance because of all the evidence and, of course, the ride in the Bronco. I made a little over a grand.
This post was edited on 7/26/22 at 5:28 pm
Posted by Twenty 49
Shreveport
Member since Jun 2014
20093 posts
Posted on 7/26/22 at 5:46 pm to
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That's how the Feds finally got EWE after 2 State juries found him not guilty.


Wrong. Those first two EWE trial were because US Attorney John Volz indicted EWE in the NOLA federal court. The first trial in 1985 resulted in a mistrial, and the second trial in 1986 resulted in acquittal.

Per Wikipedia: "After Edwards and his four co-defendants were acquitted, the hotel where the jurors had been sequestered revealed that half of the jurors had stolen towels as they left. Edwards quipped that he had been judged by a "jury of my peers".
Posted by johnnyrocket
Ghetto once known as Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2013
9790 posts
Posted on 7/26/22 at 6:03 pm to
Not guilty is my prediction.





Posted by NoSaint
Member since Jun 2011
12063 posts
Posted on 7/26/22 at 6:24 pm to
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Among other things, he never spoke to the accountant himself, pretty much ever. He never directed any action, directly. He can simply insinuate he trusted a professional and his partner, and the professional committed fraud and he was unaware. There's more to it than that but he was pretty smart about it. The tax preparer also fraudulently held himself out as a CPA and wasn't. Ultimately you are responsible for what you sign, but that might not matter to the jury.


The issue is you don’t get to be THAT wildly out of line and claim “aw shucks how’d that happen”

It’s hundreds of thousands in shady stuff. The only way he can defend it is to say he’s incapable of tying his own shoes and needs to be institutionalized so he can be cared for
Posted by Biko
Member since Jul 2022
470 posts
Posted on 7/26/22 at 6:29 pm to
$100 fine and must scrub floors in the adult bookstore bathroom stalls.
Posted by Eighteen
Member since Dec 2006
36438 posts
Posted on 7/26/22 at 6:34 pm to
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never spoke to the accountant himself, pretty much ever. He never directed any action, directly. He can simply insinuate he trusted a professional and his partner, and the professional committed fraud and he was unaware.


any rich white person would get destroyed and mocked relentlessly by the media if this was their “defense”

any Joe Blow citizen would get arse raped by the IRS for trying this same defense.

Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
13087 posts
Posted on 7/26/22 at 6:38 pm to
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Not guilty is my prediction.

Yeah, he will get off. The prosecution seems very messy/sloppy, which is a bit unusual with the Feds in this type of case. Their "star" witness was an untrustworthy bozo who stumbled all over himself and said he was testifying in an effort to get reduced charges.

The jury should find it odd that a lawyer who works for a firm that supposedly deals with a lot of cash payments "did not know about" the form 8300 and then claimed to divide the payments amongst others in the firm thereby thinking it absolved him from reporting. Ignorance is not a defense. He certainly appears to be hiding something, but I am not sure that was proven without a reasonable doubt based on media reports.
This post was edited on 7/26/22 at 6:41 pm
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
79608 posts
Posted on 7/26/22 at 6:39 pm to
quote:

Among other things, he never spoke to the accountant himself, pretty much ever. He never directed any action, directly. He can simply insinuate he trusted a professional and his partner, and the professional committed fraud and he was unaware. There's more to it than that but he was pretty smart about it. The tax preparer also fraudulently held himself out as a CPA and wasn't. Ultimately you are responsible for what you sign, but that might not matter to the jury.


I’m going with he knew. I know their is a responsibility on the professional. But he’s also a professional.

Why would your accountant risk their career to commit tax evasion for you for free?

Posted by NoSaint
Member since Jun 2011
12063 posts
Posted on 7/26/22 at 6:53 pm to
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I’m going with he knew. I know their is a responsibility on the professional. But he’s also a professional. Why would your accountant risk their career to commit tax evasion for you for free?


The scope of this is like buying a brand new product from a crackhead for like 2% of its actual value and then acting shocked it’s stolen.

“Oh man, he never told me that $500 bike and $750 in tools were stolen when I gave him $20 and a beer for the whole lot of it!”

If it were smaller transgressions you could buy the mistake but this is a couple of teenagers selling him a new car for $100 without keys during the height of the car jacking sprees
Posted by OchoDedos
Republic of Texas
Member since Oct 2014
38258 posts
Posted on 7/26/22 at 6:56 pm to
Chocolate City, rancid Chocolate DA
Posted by OvertheDwayneBowe
Member since Sep 2016
3298 posts
Posted on 7/26/22 at 7:23 pm to
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The issue is you don’t get to be THAT wildly out of line and claim “aw shucks how’d that happen”

It’s hundreds of thousands in shady stuff. The only way he can defend it is to say he’s incapable of tying his own shoes and needs to be institutionalized so he can be cared for


The case isn't that he owes money.

He does.

The case is that the burden of proof is on the prosecution to prove that he acted willfully. If all they have is "connect the dots, you know he did it" that's just not enough. The defense can create just enough doubt in the tax preparer.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
124026 posts
Posted on 7/26/22 at 7:25 pm to
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I’m going with he knew.


Yeah no shite

That isn’t the point here. It’s whether the prosecution proved their case to the standard.
Posted by Tall Tiger
Golden Rectangle
Member since Sep 2007
3823 posts
Posted on 7/26/22 at 8:06 pm to
Anyone know the racial composition of the jury? I know it's mostly female, and AA females don't take kindly to AA men married to white women.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
75065 posts
Posted on 7/26/22 at 8:13 pm to
Gross negligence or fraud is just so hard to prove.
Posted by NOLAVOL16
Member since Jan 2022
898 posts
Posted on 7/26/22 at 9:01 pm to
Prediction? He’ll be the next mayor.
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