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re: January 1, 2025: Multiple casualties on Bourbon Street after terrorist attack..

Posted on 1/6/25 at 9:34 am to
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
66181 posts
Posted on 1/6/25 at 9:34 am to
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You don’t know what I’m talking about because you live in fricking la la land and think people are saying if the street had bollards then no terrorist would be successful. Except no one is suggesting that.

Having the means to completely block the street and sidewalks against vehicle entry isn’t just for terrorist and in this instance it would’ve prevented this particular event from occurring as it occurred.


The folks arguing against bollards make no sense to me.
Posted by TDsngumbo
Member since Oct 2011
48940 posts
Posted on 1/6/25 at 9:51 am to
It is true that had bollards been there one of two things would've happened:

1. this bitch arse pussy would've found another location to plow through

or

2. he still would've attacked Bourbon St, just in a different way. Maybe he'd have opened fire killing even more. maybe he would have just exploded the bombs only, with all his attention on ensuring they were successful. or another way.

Bottom line is this: of course bollards wouldn't have stopped a terrorist from attacking but they damn sure would've stopped a terrorist from carrying out this type of attack.

to argue that just because he would've found another method to attack means that NOLA and the state shouldn't ensure proper rated bollards are in place at the intersection and on the sidewalks is stupid. you still have to do something to lessen the risks.

the guns in my house and the alarm system I have aren't going to stop someone from kicking in my door in the middle of the night but they damn sure will lessen the risk of myself or my family from being murdered. I'm not going to just lay down and say "frick it" just because they won't prevent the event from occurring.
This post was edited on 1/6/25 at 10:49 am
Posted by TDsngumbo
Member since Oct 2011
48940 posts
Posted on 1/6/25 at 9:55 am to
^^ the fact that this post gets downvotes boggles the mind.
Posted by DCtiger1
Member since Jul 2009
11029 posts
Posted on 1/6/25 at 10:00 am to
You’re right, but you also work in the insurance industry so you have a different perspective on risk mitigation, as do I
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
58858 posts
Posted on 1/6/25 at 10:14 am to
So it looks like this guy‘s grandparents were born in Louisiana and his father changed his name after converting. He’s a black American guy from Texas, like I and others suggested and got blasted for for some reason
Posted by moontigr
Commanders/LA Kings/Detroit Tigers
Member since Nov 2020
6971 posts
Posted on 1/6/25 at 10:26 am to
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I still believe he wasn’t planning on it being an all out suicide mission and had a plan to at least make an attempt to get away



Agreed. I think his plan was to detonate the bombs as he drove past and then escape in the ensuing chaos. Crashing was not part of the plan
Posted by DCtiger1
Member since Jul 2009
11029 posts
Posted on 1/6/25 at 10:28 am to
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Agreed. I think his plan was to detonate the bombs as he drove past and then escape in the ensuing chaos. Crashing was not part of the plan


I wonder if that lift was there when he rode his bike through the quarter and filmed it.
Posted by moontigr
Commanders/LA Kings/Detroit Tigers
Member since Nov 2020
6971 posts
Posted on 1/6/25 at 10:32 am to
A friend of mine posted this on social media

quote:

Born and raised in the US and served in the military. No, he’s not some scary man from another country. Scary, evil people are born and raised in the US too.


I'm not really sure how to interpret this. He was radicalized either here or abroad. What difference does it make if he's an American citizen?
This post was edited on 1/6/25 at 9:38 pm
Posted by DCtiger1
Member since Jul 2009
11029 posts
Posted on 1/6/25 at 10:36 am to
He was radicalized either here in the states or abroad. Radical Islam is radical Islam, doesn’t matter where you’re born
Posted by CP3forMVP
Member since Nov 2010
15767 posts
Posted on 1/6/25 at 10:41 am to
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Would assume he waited for a guaranteed large crowd and a symbolic day.

If memory serves, they like to make headlines.

Killing 14 people on NYE/NYD with the Sugar Bowl in town draws more headlines than Tuesday, November 5.


I obviously meant why did he wait until 3:00AM and not midnight, 1:00AM, etc. Your own post kind of speaks to why that's confusing
This post was edited on 1/6/25 at 10:42 am
Posted by TDsngumbo
Member since Oct 2011
48940 posts
Posted on 1/6/25 at 10:48 am to
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You’re right, but you also work in the insurance industry so you have a different perspective on risk mitigation, as do I

I thought about this exact perspective too. You can't just sit back and say "frick it, it's gonna happen anyway" and use that mentality to justify not doing things to help lower the risk.
Posted by TDsngumbo
Member since Oct 2011
48940 posts
Posted on 1/6/25 at 10:54 am to
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He was radicalized either here in the states or abroad. Radical Islam is radical Islam, doesn’t matter where you’re born

Exactly. I don't know why him being an American citizen matters here.

On New Years day, my liberal sister in law kept bring up (unsolicited, mind you) that he was born in the United States every time this attack came up in conversation even though nobody brought up immigration or where he was from. After the third time I had to look her in the eye and say "we fricking know but it doesn't change what he did". She had nothing to say to that, like it was surprising I said that. She was just searching for ways to bring politics into it all day long.

She even brought up how some dude recently was found with a huge cache of explosive materials at his home. My wife goes, "where was he from?" and she kept responding with "he was white". Again, my wife asks, "no, where was he from?". She again responded with "he was white". My wife finally sternly says, "OK! WHERE WAS HE FROM??" and she goes, "he was from Virginia" to which my wife says, "ok, thanks for answering my original question".

She was just assuming my wife assumed he was an illegal immigrant from another country when in reality my wife just wanted to know what state it was in . They're always defensive.
Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2010
9015 posts
Posted on 1/6/25 at 12:39 pm to
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She was just searching for ways to bring politics into it all day long.



I can believe all that.

But, in fairness, there's pages of posts in this thread raising political capital for the nut to be an immigrant that crossed the southern border.

It cuts all ways with people who are gung-ho all the time to get a political "I told you so".

It's not surprising since playing on emotions after any kind of public tragedy is, historically, the best strategy to push through legislation that wouldn't garner enough support otherwise, like the Patriot Act ect. . .

Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
35751 posts
Posted on 1/6/25 at 12:44 pm to
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I'm not really sure how to interpret this. What difference does it make where he was born or if he was an American citizen?


I would interpret that as a suggestion that unchecked illegal immigration is not part of the problem, or at least wasn't in this instance.

While that would be true, unchecked illegal immigration is a huge problem as is radical Islam. We shouldn't have to choose which to address as both require urgent and continuing attention and efforts.
This post was edited on 1/6/25 at 12:45 pm
Posted by hob
Member since Dec 2017
2341 posts
Posted on 1/6/25 at 2:26 pm to
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Yes who the hell is he waving at? The camera or someone else? He k ew he was on camera or he was getting someone’s attention.


If that's the corner or Bourbon and Orleans he's waving to the popular camera at Cat's Meow.

Posted by Pax Regis
Alabama
Member since Sep 2007
14793 posts
Posted on 1/6/25 at 3:11 pm to
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But that explains the laptop being left behind. Yeah, sure.


They can just pull the hard drive or make an image copy of it. They don’t need the computer itself.
Posted by wileyjones
Member since May 2014
2689 posts
Posted on 1/6/25 at 4:30 pm to
quote:

They can just pull the hard drive or make an image copy of it. They don’t need the computer itself.
as a forensic investigator myself this is not really correct

Most laptops use encrypted drives and hardware security modules (TPM for windows) which are separate from the hard drives. So you need the whole laptop to capture the encryption key by hooking some pins on it during boot. It’s a pretty fun hack to perform
Posted by pussywillows
Member since Dec 2009
6431 posts
Posted on 1/6/25 at 5:05 pm to
the laptop talk is moot...what he was claiming was a laptop was actually a cooling pad for a laptop...
Posted by Mouth
Member since Jan 2008
22826 posts
Posted on 1/6/25 at 7:20 pm to
You can bet your arse he had his laptop with him in New Orleans.

That bitch burnt up on Mandeville street.
Posted by Red Stick Tigress
Tiger Stadium
Member since Nov 2005
20039 posts
Posted on 1/6/25 at 7:23 pm to
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burnt up on Mandeville street


House didn't burn down. Fire was started in a linen closet and didn't have enough oxygen. It fizzled out before NOFD got there.
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