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re: January 1, 2025: Multiple casualties on Bourbon Street after terrorist attack..
Posted on 1/5/25 at 8:46 pm to DCtiger1
Posted on 1/5/25 at 8:46 pm to DCtiger1
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you seriously suggesting that in no part of risk mitigation in any industry do we attempt to prevent the same shite from happening again?
In my experience there is hyper focus to prevent the same thing from happening rather than focus on the root cause.
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Any system should be designed to protect the entire street from any egress point.
Totally different discussion
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Posted on 1/5/25 at 8:48 pm to fightin tigers
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In my experience there is hyper focus to prevent the same thing from happening rather than focus on the root cause.
This country doesn’t have the balls to eliminate the root cause. It will never happen.
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Totally different discussion
No it isn’t, it’s something that should’ve been done a decade ago and it’s been discussed for years
Posted on 1/5/25 at 8:51 pm to TDsngumbo
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I came back to this thread and noticed there have been lots of new posts so I assumed some news broke about developments.
I should have known it was the OT bickering about shite everyone agrees on at some point or another
Probably right, this thread drug me back into TD more than I wanted to be. Brings out the worst in what I want to be in life.
Untill another time.
Posted on 1/5/25 at 8:53 pm to DCtiger1
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You’d think everyone would agree
He just wants the thread to turn into bashing Islam instead of acknowledging that there was a pretty simple security gaffe.
Its in fact driving him nuts
Posted on 1/5/25 at 8:57 pm to NoSaint
Radicalism is a huge problem for the western world, but no government in Europe or at home is willing to deal with it.
It’s mind numbing that people can’t just look logically and say hey if we can prevent it from happening again, let’s do it
It’s mind numbing that people can’t just look logically and say hey if we can prevent it from happening again, let’s do it
Posted on 1/5/25 at 9:00 pm to NoSaint
Rest in Peace Tiger.
Dude lived everyday like it was his last & never listened to the word “no”… he also had a big heart & could make anyone laugh off the cuff
Dude lived everyday like it was his last & never listened to the word “no”… he also had a big heart & could make anyone laugh off the cuff
Posted on 1/5/25 at 9:08 pm to DCtiger1
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Radicalism is a huge problem for the western world, but no government in Europe or at home is willing to deal with it. It’s mind numbing that people can’t just look logically and say hey if we can prevent it from happening again, let’s do it
Oh I wasn’t arguing good bad or ugly on that - simply acknowledging that for him it is 100% that topic or nothing at all.
As this was an incident steps from my workplace, in the city I live in, I think I’m a bit more interested in the local aspect. The minutiae. International trends are swinging back the other direction. He’s already starting to get a lot of what he wants. Neither he or I truly effect it. I can talk to my council person about local security.
Posted on 1/5/25 at 9:15 pm to NoSaint
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Oh I wasn’t arguing good bad or ugly on that - simply acknowledging that for him it is 100% that topic or nothing at all. As this was an incident steps from my workplace, in the city I live in, I think I’m a bit more interested in the local aspect. The minutiae. International trends are swinging back the other direction. He’s already starting to get a lot of what he wants. Neither he or I truly effect it. I can talk to my council person about local security.
I agree with you. Security and risk mitigation was my career a decade ago. I look at things through a different lense than most.
Posted on 1/5/25 at 9:19 pm to Dueces
Any chance they release his Facebook videos as well?
Posted on 1/5/25 at 9:45 pm to fightin tigers
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Probably right, this thread drug me back into TD more than I wanted to be. Brings out the worst in what I want to be in life. Untill another time.
Please tell me this means you will stfu and go away?!?
Pretty please.
Posted on 1/5/25 at 9:51 pm to GhostofJackson
I've read speculation that the reason he waited til 3am as opposed to earlier in the night is that he suspected the crowd on NYE would be too thick and he wouldn't be able to get through without crashing. Also that only the worst of the worst heathens and sinners would still be out at that time. Would've been nice to see him pulled from the truck and beaten by an angry drunken mob.
This post was edited on 1/5/25 at 10:00 pm
Posted on 1/5/25 at 9:57 pm to CP3forMVP
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Has the FBI given any indication why he waited so long?
There was only a couple of NOPD out there. I was there between 9 and 10.
Posted on 1/5/25 at 10:11 pm to moontigr
I don't know for sure, but most nights there's that NOPD or whatever tank on Bourbon/Canal parked. I'd be curious to see if any videos were posted earlier in that night that show if the tank was helping block off that entrance, might have been a tight squeeze until the tank left or something.
Posted on 1/5/25 at 10:24 pm to fightin tigers
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Will promise you they won't be setup for a terrorist attack on a regular Tuesday.
I get what you're saying about this. If one nut with a truck or assault rifle or homemade bomb is going to try to kill a bunch of people, they can do that just about anywhere.
A large percentage of the measures put into place after attacks are pacifiers to calm people down and, significantly, get them to come back and spend money at the (type) places that have been attacked.
And some are frustrating. Great correction to make cockpits harder to enter. Maybe too much to make old ladies throw away their lotion for the next ten years.
Posted on 1/5/25 at 10:33 pm to GhostofJackson
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really rare element in his explosives that have never been used in the US or Europe. Why would he even know about it and how did he get it if he was acting alone?
My understanding is that it’s just never been used in terrorism before. This board has enough people I’m sure someone will be an expert to explain it more.
To play devil’s advocate to your point, if he had help his help sucked. His bombs apparently didn’t have the right detonators. So I’d argue the opposite, and he likely didn’t have domestic help and some goat fricker across the world helped him with shitty information.
Posted on 1/5/25 at 11:17 pm to fightin tigers
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I'm telling you now, Mardi Gras is an easier target, but no one is calling to cancel parades until every street on the route has bollards.
I thought about the crescent city classic too. Lesser event, obviously, but the condensed number of people into one spot may be more. Idk
Posted on 1/6/25 at 12:21 am to fightin tigers
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I'm telling you now, Mardi Gras is an easier target, but no one is calling to cancel parades until every street on the route has bollards.
Didn’t a drunk a few years ago drive into a crowd on the parade route…
It happened in 2017 for Endymion, NBC News, luckily in that incident no one was killed, but 28 were injured.
Posted on 1/6/25 at 8:14 am to Tarps99
There was also the guy that plowed into bicyclists in the crowd leaving Endymion
Posted on 1/6/25 at 9:34 am to moontigr
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I've read speculation that the reason he waited til 3am as opposed to earlier in the night is that he suspected the crowd on NYE would be too thick and he wouldn't be able to get through without crashing.
I still believe he wasn’t planning on it being an all out suicide mission and had a plan to at least make an attempt to get away
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