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re: January 1, 2025: Multiple casualties on Bourbon Street after terrorist attack..

Posted on 1/2/25 at 10:17 am to
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 1/2/25 at 10:17 am to
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You don’t look at this event or any event and say frick it lets not learn from our mistakes


Again, how wide a radius are you setting up all these counter measures?
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 1/2/25 at 10:18 am to
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I could go kill 15 people right now easily all over this city if I were so inclined. Just because that is the "most densely packed" does not mean there aren't huge crowds elsewhere.



You could.

I'm not sure what that has to do with putting up basic safety measures for that particular stretch, or the packed tourist areas of the FQ in general.
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 1/2/25 at 10:18 am to
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Terrorism should be limited to a coordinated and planned violent event by multiple people.


But that isn’t what terrorism means. Why do you want to change the definition?
Posted by NoSaint
Member since Jun 2011
12691 posts
Posted on 1/2/25 at 10:18 am to
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don't see how you can make the leap of "put up bollards on sidewalks" to gun control.


Oh it was clear that’s been the underpinning of a couple folks stance that if a solution doesn’t fix everything everywhere all the time it’s worthless
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 1/2/25 at 10:19 am to
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terrorism is literally just done to promote terror. you are redefining the term


Yeah. And these days anyone with an internet connection can get radicalized by ISIS, PLO, The Taliban, or even radical domestic parties.

The shooter at the Nashville school kept to herself; and clearly grew more radical online. She/he wasn’t in some training camp or part of an organized attack. But the they sought out other crazies online who influenced each other. Likely the same case as the Trump shooter.

I wouldn’t be shocked if the terrorist in Louisiana had help with those bombs. Even if it were online.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 1/2/25 at 10:19 am to
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the packed tourist areas of the FQ in general.


Maybe you will answer where the common sense and logical demarcation point is for these measures.
Posted by fwtex
Member since Nov 2019
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Posted on 1/2/25 at 10:20 am to
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terrorism is literally just done to promote terror. you are redefining the term


Then every crime is now terrorism. The carjacker is a terrorist, the local convenience store robbery is now terrorism. The guy with road rage is now a terrorist.

All these are based on terrorizing another person to do what the terror wants them to do.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 1/2/25 at 10:22 am to
Terrorism requires political or ideological aims. Words have meanings, people.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 1/2/25 at 10:23 am to
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Maybe you will answer where the common sense and logical demarcation point is for these measures.



Beginning at Canal, ending at St. Ann or Dumaine. Beginning at Bourbon, ending at either Chartres or Decatur.
This post was edited on 1/2/25 at 10:24 am
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 1/2/25 at 10:23 am to
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Maybe you will answer where the common sense and logical demarcation point is for these measures.


Throughout the entire FQ

Not sure why you're against it
Posted by TigersSEC2010
Warren, Michigan
Member since Jan 2010
38449 posts
Posted on 1/2/25 at 10:24 am to
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Has there been any update on increased security measures for the Sugar Bowl today? I’ve seen some articles, but details are sparse and the governmental platitudes we are being fed aren’t making me feel warm and fuzzy.


They’re bringing in a shitload of cops and K9s from BRPD, EBRSO, and JPSO.
Posted by Ziggy
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 1/2/25 at 10:25 am to
Presser just started...
Posted by DCtiger1
Member since Jul 2009
11788 posts
Posted on 1/2/25 at 10:26 am to
How do you feel about the flood control measures built around the city after Katrina?

How about wind mitigation protections on homes?

We agree you cannot eliminate risk. We disagree on risk mitigation
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 1/2/25 at 10:26 am to
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Throughout the entire FQ Not sure why you're against it


One argument is that they’re there already but don’t work. Do you trust a corrupt city to spend money on shite they already had? FWIW I think they should be at the end of each street.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 1/2/25 at 10:26 am to
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Beginning at Canal, ending at Dumaine. Beginning at Bourbon, ending at either Chartres or Decatur.


arse gonna be disappointed him and Lafitte's didn't make it into the protected zone.

More seriously, that still leaves huge crowds exposed on Decatur and Rampart alone. Not Bourbon St level crowds, but plenty big enough to match the death toll in this event.
Posted by Pax Regis
Alabama
Member since Sep 2007
15277 posts
Posted on 1/2/25 at 10:28 am to
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I was today years old when i first heard about “Turo”


It’s AIRBNB for cars. I used it once. Vehicle quality was not good. Easier to just use a rental car company. But I can see if you’re trying to stay on the DL how Turo would be a good option for you. Much less “bureaucracy.”
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
172004 posts
Posted on 1/2/25 at 10:28 am to
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
89130 posts
Posted on 1/2/25 at 10:28 am to
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How do you feel about the flood control measures built around the city after Katrina?

How about wind mitigation protections on homes?

We agree you cannot eliminate risk. We disagree on risk mitigation


I don't find these remotely equivalent, as I'm sure you don't if you're being honest.

Flooding is a yearly event that effects the entire region, as is winds from hurricanes and other events. Terrorism is not.
This post was edited on 1/2/25 at 10:30 am
Posted by NoSaint
Member since Jun 2011
12691 posts
Posted on 1/2/25 at 10:28 am to
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Maybe you will answer where the common sense and logical demarcation point is for these measures.


In particularly crowded and/or symbolic locations just like we’ve seen all over the city for years - minus this stretch having them removed temporarily right now?

This isn’t some grand riddle and no answers is going to be 100% perfect.
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