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re: January 1, 2025: Multiple casualties on Bourbon Street after terrorist attack..

Posted on 1/2/25 at 9:56 am to
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 1/2/25 at 9:56 am to
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Part of the issue with them protruding onto sidewalks is the impact it has on people who are wheelchair bound or handicapped. No easy solutions.


"sorry, we couldn't prevent this because of the 3 wheelchair people a week who might come down here" just doesn't fly. they can easily make room for a wheelchair and still block a car.
Posted by fwtex
Member since Nov 2019
3403 posts
Posted on 1/2/25 at 9:57 am to
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What about the videos he posted pledging his allegiance to ISIS right before the attacks?


If all my electronics can extract information from all my online activity and private offline conversation for targeted advertising, then why the heck can't these technology platform flag and isolate these nut jobs who are planing mass murder? Every one of these murderers have been found to have made their intention known in their personal technology devices and social media but yet no one has ever stopped them before they follow through.

If your going to spy on society for commerce, then why not security?
Posted by DCtiger1
Member since Jul 2009
11788 posts
Posted on 1/2/25 at 9:57 am to
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So you have a vested interest in these things being installed. Your opinion makes more sense now.


Negative, I haven’t worked in DC in 12 years. It’s just logic
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
66100 posts
Posted on 1/2/25 at 9:57 am to


On our morning call. Lots of football talk. Nobody gonna touch politics or events over the weekend. Probably smart. Someone would say something and someone would probably rat em out to hr.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
130268 posts
Posted on 1/2/25 at 9:58 am to
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It's pretty self explanatory. You agree that the stuff you're talking about doing won't stop this. So why do it?



Stop? No. Nothing but the most draconian, unconstitutional measures could "fully" prevent a determined terrorist.

But there is nothing wrong with putting up the common sense preventative measures you can, based on the experiences you've had, to make things more difficult. I'm not sure how one could argue otherwise.

Posted by NoSaint
Member since Jun 2011
12691 posts
Posted on 1/2/25 at 9:58 am to
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Every one of these murderers have been found to have made their intention known in their personal technology devices and social media but yet no one has ever stopped them before they follow through. If your going to spy on society for commerce, then why not security?


I’m not sure about the assumption that we aren’t stopping any


That isn’t stumping saying we are - but you’ve made a pretty large jump saying we aren’t
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
172004 posts
Posted on 1/2/25 at 9:59 am to
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If your going to spy on society for commerce, then why not security?


prosecuting thought crime is an unconstitutional slippery slope.
Posted by TDsngumbo
Member since Oct 2011
50761 posts
Posted on 1/2/25 at 10:00 am to
FBI now says they don't suspect anyone else to be involved in this attack.

The Vegas bomber did his thing on the same day as the NOLA attack, rented his vehicle from the same obscure car rental app, and served with the NOLA terrorist --- but nobody else was involved?

I don't buy that one bit. Obviously this was planned with at least the two of them and likely others. No way this didn't involve others.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
78409 posts
Posted on 1/2/25 at 10:01 am to
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same obscure car rental app,


Definitely not an obscure app.

Especially if you have a specific car you want to rent in mind. Which these two seem to have.
Posted by Woodlands Tigah
Tejas
Member since Mar 2021
1046 posts
Posted on 1/2/25 at 10:01 am to
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No easy solutions.


bullshite. I was in London a few months ago, and they have bollards where pedestrian traffic is heavy...

St. Paul's Cathedral. The three Stainless bollards retract for vehicle traffic.


The Millennium bridge


And many other places had bollards strategically installed.

It takes foresight, planning and competent leadership to effectively manage the implmentation. Unfortunatley, those folks are in short supply!
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
138923 posts
Posted on 1/2/25 at 10:02 am to
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FBI now says they don't suspect anyone else to be involved in this attack.

So were the suspected IEDs not legit or are they legit IEDs not related to this guy?
Posted by Gris Gris
OTIS!NO RULES FOR SAUCES ON STEAK!!
Member since Feb 2008
49636 posts
Posted on 1/2/25 at 10:02 am to
Is there any other information on the murderer’s initial plan?

Did he intend to detonate the explosives before driving down Bourbon? Did the detonation fail and he then decided to drive down Bourbon? Will we ever know?

3 am seems an odd time to blast down Bourbon even on New Year’s/Sugar Bowl night. Makes me think he was planning something earlier that failed.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
172004 posts
Posted on 1/2/25 at 10:03 am to
Turo isn't obscure btw. I think it was used because big box rental places will have security cams all over. Turo you just go pick the car up where it is.

I just don't see the Vegas guy pledging loyalty to ISIS though like the Bourbon st guy.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
130268 posts
Posted on 1/2/25 at 10:03 am to
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rented his vehicle from the same obscure car rental app


Turo is very much not obscure at all. It is very popular and widely used.

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served with the NOLA


Doesn't the base they both served at have literally 10s of thousands of people serving there at a given time?
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
172004 posts
Posted on 1/2/25 at 10:04 am to
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So were the suspected IEDs not legit or are they legit IEDs not related to this guy?


2 explosives found down river on bourbon. the reports of 3 guys and 1 woman planting bombs were investigated and cleared. likely just homeless people leaving their shite everywhere.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Member since Jun 2009
89130 posts
Posted on 1/2/25 at 10:04 am to
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common sense


You sound like a gun grabber with this.
Posted by TakingStock
Member since Jun 2009
7417 posts
Posted on 1/2/25 at 10:04 am to
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So were the suspected IEDs not legit or are they legit IEDs not related to this guy?


It's just very strange that the FBI said in the 1 PM press conference yesterday that he had help and then the story comes out about surveillance footage showing 3 men and 1 woman planting the other IEDs and then all of sudden none of that happened?
Posted by TDsngumbo
Member since Oct 2011
50761 posts
Posted on 1/2/25 at 10:05 am to
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So were the suspected IEDs not legit or are they legit IEDs not related to this guy?

I mean, I guess it's always possible he planted the bombs himself. Still don't buy that nobody else was involved.

We were told all day yesterday that there was security footage of 3 men and a woman planting the bombs. That kind of thing doesn't just get misunderstood. Either the video exists or it doesn't.

I'm now seeing why Senator Kennedy is pissed and threatening to go forward with information if the FBI doesn't tell us the truth. He knows something.
Posted by Mouth
Member since Jan 2008
23079 posts
Posted on 1/2/25 at 10:05 am to
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So were the suspected IEDs not legit or are they legit IEDs not related to this guy?


yes. they said he is the one who planted the IEDs at there locations.

then changed into his fatigues.
Posted by Chicken
Jackassistan
Member since Aug 2003
27472 posts
Posted on 1/2/25 at 10:05 am to
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FBI now says they don't suspect anyone else to be involved in this attack.
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