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re: Ivermectin: Cancer killer Are you aware of these studies?

Posted on 3/4/25 at 11:16 am to
Posted by Mr. Misanthrope
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 3/4/25 at 11:16 am to
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We share a lot of life-views, but this isn't one.

We do. Because of this I read carefully what you post.

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Ivermectin hasn't been trialed in humans for cancer treatment, and likely won't ever be.

There's no evidence to support it.

No, I agree it hasn’t been studied and that it likely never will be.

The only “evidence” showing some promise as a possible treatment for cancer is apparently all anecdotal.

Much like evidence respecting its efficacy as an anti-viral with respect to Coronavirus 19 was anecdotal.

Much of the “evidence” suggesting problems with the Coronavirus vaccines was at first anecdotal and the product of the fevered imaginations of anti-vaxers and conspiracy theorists.

We are finding out differently now. Why would we be so trusting of the advocates so quickly dismissing ivermectin as an anti-cancer possibility? They are often the same people who staunchly defend the coronavirus vaccines.

All that said, my post was simply to show that advocates of ivermectin as an anti-cancer protocol may have in mind the connections with cancer and viruses going back to the late 1950’s. I think the subject is fascinating and deserving more research.

If ivermectin is proven effective as an anti-viral and some cancers are, effectively viruses, why not try it? Why not study it? Other than that it’s cheap and might deprive the pharmaceutical industry of some profit.
Posted by Whiznot
Albany, GA
Member since Oct 2013
7589 posts
Posted on 3/4/25 at 2:53 pm to
New proposed 10 interventions for all solid cancers

Above is a Merogenomics YouTube channel link of a talk about an emerging anti cancer protocol described in the paper "Targeting the Mitochondrial-Stem Cell Connection in Cancer Treatment: A Hybrid Orthomolecular Protocol."

The anti cancer protocol has 10 interventions presented in the paper and discussed in the YouTube video. The interventions include maintenance of high vitamin D, maintenance of an extremely low carb high fat diet with fasting and supplementation with anti parasitic drugs ivermectin and mebendazole. Fenbendazole isn't mentioned.

The paper is linked below the video in the show notes..
Posted by Whiznot
Albany, GA
Member since Oct 2013
7589 posts
Posted on 3/4/25 at 3:24 pm to
Pharmaceutical companies will never conduct honest trials of anything that doesn't earn them profits in the billions.

Based on my personal experience, and the reported experience of others, the cures of so called incurable diseases can be had for free. Arthritis, MS, Parkinson's disease, type 2 diabetes and many other diseases can be cured by substituting toxins for nutrients.
Posted by Mr. Misanthrope
Cloud 8
Member since Nov 2012
6334 posts
Posted on 3/4/25 at 3:37 pm to
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Pharmaceutical companies will never conduct honest trials of anything that doesn't earn them profits in the billions.

It really seems this is the case. A small portion of the waste and corrupt use of our tax dollars recently exposed by DOGE could be redirected to unbiased research not funded by or staffed with the pharmaceutical companies lackeys. A little could go a long way.
Posted by N2cars
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Member since Feb 2008
37890 posts
Posted on 3/4/25 at 3:50 pm to
Cancer pharmaceutical advances have been nothing short of amazing in the last 10 years.
You have likely seen the ads for oral chemotherapy medications and they do indeed work, for awhile.
Some cancers have even been almost completely eradicated.
Every single oncologist will tell you they have more tools in their toolbox than every before.
Love or hate Trump, his FastTrack program got medicines approved quicker than ever and gave the choice to those terminal patients to try last-resort medications, which had some limited trial success.

Invermectin, if it had any potential as a cancer medication, would be prescribed.
Despite what had been said here, my experience with oncologists is that they arr more than willing to let the patients decide, especially those that are terminal.



Another poster said I was angry, and I guess he's right.
But I'm not angry at him, I'm angry at cancer.


It is a cowardly foe; it hides and cheats and steals precious people from us.
When they're our wives and daughters and mothers, it rocks us to our core because we can't save them.

Anyway, this is my last post on the topic.

If anyone would really like to help those going through chemo, I can you show you how.


You can make it a difference, if that is important to you.
This post was edited on 3/4/25 at 3:53 pm
Posted by WigSplitta22
The Bottom
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 3/4/25 at 3:59 pm to
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I know some people who were diagnosed as terminal a few years ago and are still here today. Side effects dont seem to be much of an issue for most people. I guess you have to decide for yourself if it is worth the risk using unapproved meds for human use.



Mel Gibson said the same on Rogans podcast. He had 2 friends with stage 4 that no longer have it after taking Ivermectin, Feben, Methylene blue etc
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
30020 posts
Posted on 3/4/25 at 4:19 pm to
A salient point that one poster alluded to is very important about understanding why Bigpharma would not bury a cheap drug with high efficacy. It is the idea of evergreening or in a case like this I guess it would be first greening. If ivermectin should true promise in curing cancer during human clinical trials pharma would find another compound to add to it to increase its efficacy and/or increase its bioavailability. They would fund trials to show this and then put the drug on the market. It is actually very likely the compound would be more effective than invermection alone, this would allow them to patent it and then use evergreening to extend the patent protection.

The point is pharma is not run by stupid people. They are completely capable of taking a cheap, unprotected drug and turning it into a profit monster.
Posted by Freauxzen
Washington
Member since Feb 2006
38406 posts
Posted on 3/4/25 at 4:35 pm to
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Invermectin, if it had any potential as a cancer medication, would be prescribed.


I don't have a dog in the ivermectin fight, but I do not believe any industry, even the medical industry, would solve problems that create its own destruction.

That's not how humans or capitalism work.
Posted by Wiener
Member since Apr 2019
94 posts
Posted on 3/4/25 at 5:24 pm to
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Mel Gibson said the same on Rogans podcast. He had 2 friends with stage 4 that no longer have it after taking Ivermectin, Feben, Methylene blue etc

Had 2 friends?
Posted by DocOnc
Austin
Member since Nov 2020
9 posts
Posted on 3/4/25 at 5:50 pm to
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Invermectin, if it had any potential as a cancer medication, would be prescribed.


I don't have a dog in the ivermectin fight, but I do not believe any industry, even the medical industry, would solve problems that create its own destruction.

That's not how humans or capitalism work.


Every physician I work with tries to decrease cancer risk for their patients.

We tell patients to have colonoscopies where the colon cancer can be removed as a polyp before it needs chemo and surgery. We tell patients to stop smoking which cuts lung and bladder cancer rates-among others. A significant portion of liver cancer is caused by hepatitis caused cirrhosis and drugs can now cure Hep C at high rates. We tell people to get skin cancer screening to catch melanoma before immunotherapy is needed. We perform genetic testing on a large number of patients in case they have genes that code for cancer so more intense screening or procedures can be implemented to prevent a patient from getting cancer or catching at an early stage where chemotherapy will not be required( for example bilateral mastectomy and oophorectomy in BRCA carriers).HPV vaccines were developed in order to decrease cervical, anal, and head and neck cancer prevalence- of which a high percentage are caused by the HPV infection.

And our newer anticancer therapies cure a higher percentage of cancer cases.


Cancer is not one disease- it is many- there are over 60 subtypes of just lymphoma. One drug is not curing all cancer. Hence even if ivermectin worked to some degree, it almost assuredly would only work for a small fraction of cancer. Chemotherapy did not cure all cancer , the new immunotherapy agents are a step forward but do not work for all cancer, etc. Oncologists have no fear they will suddenly be destitute from ivermectin or any of the other miracle cures we have heard about over the years. ( laetrile, noni juice, Gershon method, antineoplastins, colloidal silver, alkaline diet, CBD, shark cartilage, etc). If its too good to be true- it is. There is not a cure of a hundred diseases with no side effects. And indeed there is money to be made from these agents- the people who tout these miracle cures make plenty.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
30020 posts
Posted on 3/4/25 at 6:46 pm to
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I don't have a dog in the ivermectin fight, but I do not believe any industry, even the medical industry, would solve problems that create its own destruction.


It is a simple argument, but excuse the directness; it is also simple-minded. People saved from one form of death are still going to die and still going to need or want intervention from the medical industry. Death and taxes.

Interventional cardiologists have taken a lot of work off my wife's table, but they continue to age and don't change their lifestyles and end up in her OR just at a later time. The issue you are missing is the longer people live, they just produce more work for the doctors and surgeons. Look at the history of medicine, they don't need to avoid low-cost cures; they will make their money as the people age. If you take a close look, keeping people alive longer increases the revenue as a whole.

My wife has patients she has patched up multiple times; in the past, they probably wouldn't have lived to have a second surgery, much less a third or fourth.
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
149425 posts
Posted on 3/4/25 at 7:00 pm to
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keeping people alive longer increases the revenue as a whole.
ding ding ding
Posted by Nome tiger
Member since Nov 2014
165 posts
Posted on 3/4/25 at 10:18 pm to
Oddly enough, my wife has taken HCQ daily for lupus since 2019, everyone in the house has had COVID (I had it twice) and she has never gotten it. I know, “granny smoked Pall Malls”, but it’s interesting you said that.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
120028 posts
Posted on 3/4/25 at 10:22 pm to
But CajunAngel has a Rumble video that says otherwise.
Posted by SwampMonster
Member since Feb 2025
592 posts
Posted on 3/4/25 at 10:35 pm to
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My oncologist doesn’t believe that there’s enough evidence that it’s helpful.


If your oncologist couldn’t prescribe radiation / chemo, would they still be an oncologist?

Think about that and see how much probative value you give to their opinion on ivermectin and various other anthelmintics since they’re available OTC.

It’s all a racket…ivermectin is amazing as are other anthelmintics.
Posted by LSUAngelHere1
Watson
Member since Jan 2018
10137 posts
Posted on 3/4/25 at 10:36 pm to
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We tell patients to have colonoscopies where the colon cancer can be removed as a polyp before it needs chemo and surgery. We tell patients to stop smoking which cuts lung and bladder cancer rates-among others. A significant portion of liver cancer is caused by hepatitis caused cirrhosis and drugs can now cure Hep C at high rates. We tell people to get skin cancer screening to catch melanoma before immunotherapy is needed. We perform genetic testing on a large number of patients in case they have genes that code for cancer so more intense screening or procedures can be implemented to prevent a patient from getting cancer or catching at an early stage where chemotherapy will not be required( for example bilateral mastectomy and oophorectomy in BRCA carriers).HPV vaccines were developed in order to decrease cervical, anal, and head and neck cancer prevalence- of which a high percentage are caused by the HPV infection.

Colonoscopies and mammograms are scams. Nicotine fights cancer.

Your patients are infested with parasites and yet you still push all these lies and invasive procedures that cause more damage.

I bet you encouraged patients to get the social experiment injection and nuked their immune system so now they’re getting hepatitis, AIDS, myocarditis, etc.
This post was edited on 3/4/25 at 10:39 pm
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
33351 posts
Posted on 3/4/25 at 10:47 pm to
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We tell patients to have colonoscopies where the colon cancer can be removed as a polyp before it needs chemo and surgery. We tell patients to stop smoking which cuts lung and bladder cancer rates-among others. A significant portion of liver cancer is caused by hepatitis caused cirrhosis and drugs can now cure Hep C at high rates. We tell people to get skin cancer screening to catch melanoma before immunotherapy is needed.

Which is admirable, with the exception that the entire industry lost their freaking minds over a $5 scrip, that throughout its history never caused one death. That sounds shady. How the hell did it even rise to that level? Drs scared to prescribe it, pharmacies refused to carry it.

There was just too much there, there. What possible outcome could they have been afraid of. I got realllll suspicious after I read this (written prior to the pandemic)
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The Journal of Antibiotics: Ivermectin: enigmatic multifaceted ‘wonder’ drug continues to surprise and exceed expectations. Over the past decade, the global scientific community have begun to recognize the unmatched value of an extraordinary drug, ivermectin, that originates from a single microbe unearthed from soil in Japan. Work on ivermectin has seen its discoverer, Satoshi Omura, receive the 2014 Gairdner Global Health Award and the 2015 Nobel Prize in Medicine

Today, ivermectin is continuing to surprise and excite scientists, offering more and more promise to help improve global public health by treating a diverse range of diseases, with its unexpected potential as an antibacterial, antiviral and anti-cancer agent being particularly extraordinary.

Thats not a drug you piss of as simply a horse de-wormer, if millions are dropping dead all around you
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
30020 posts
Posted on 3/5/25 at 12:26 am to
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Your patients are infested with parasites and yet you still push all these lies and invasive procedures that cause more damage.


Are you still on your cancer cells are a parasite screed? Cancer cells are not a foreign body; they are simply abnormal human (in humans) tissue cells. It is a bit of a stretch, but things like viruses and bacteria can be considered parasites, but cells that grew from one's own body can not, by definition, be a parasite, which is a distinct organism from the host.

Parroting without understanding is a dangerous rhetorical road to travel, and you are all gas and no brakes. You are trying to return to the age of spontaneous generation, which is well and truly in the rear view.
Posted by Neutral Underground
Member since Mar 2024
2712 posts
Posted on 3/5/25 at 1:14 am to
Multiple States are making it an OTC medicine. It's a damn shame that so many people were demonizing a medicine that people were desperate for any type of relief.
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
20528 posts
Posted on 3/5/25 at 7:06 am to
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Cancer is not one disease- it is many- there are over 60 subtypes of just lymphoma. One drug is not curing all cancer. Hence even if ivermectin worked to some degree, it almost assuredly would only work for a small fraction of cancer. Chemotherapy did not cure all cancer , the new immunotherapy agents are a step forward but do not work for all cancer, etc. Oncologists have no fear they will suddenly be destitute from ivermectin or any of the other miracle cures we have heard about over the years. ( laetrile, noni juice, Gershon method, antineoplastins, colloidal silver, alkaline diet, CBD, shark cartilage, etc). If its too good to be true- it is. There is not a cure of a hundred diseases with no side effects. And indeed there is money to be made from these agents- the people who tout these miracle cures make plenty.

My dad got tuberculosis vaccine injected in through his dick and is now cancer free i couldn't imagine setting up the first trials for this treatment, but here we are 5 years later... cancer free. I don't imagine BCG treatment is terribly expensive either.
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