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re: It’s time to get medieval with criminals.
Posted on 9/7/22 at 10:05 am to Geekboy
Posted on 9/7/22 at 10:05 am to Geekboy
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From The New York Times. I’m sure they carefully ‘researched’ for that article. Thanks for posting a pay link. That’s always helpful. Did they bring back Jayson Blair for this article?
I knew you would whine about whichever link I posted, which is why I gave you the exact search terms I used. Google it yourself. Pick a source.
Or put your head in the sand. Your call
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Posted on 9/7/22 at 10:07 am to Geekboy
I think we need to give up on the idea of rehabilitation and lean in hard as frick on punishment/deterrent.
Prison should be so horrific and miserable that people actually fear being sent there. And the whole time they are there they should be doing everything within their power to make sure they never get sent back.
The eye for an eye thing is what I'm thinking. You get caught stealing, you lose a hand. You kill someone, you are killed 24 hours after a guilty verdict.
"But what about saving those poor misguided souls?" you may ask.
frick that. We already have a surplus of shitbags as it is. We aren't going to miss any. Start raising productive members of society and destroy "thug cultcha". Do away with the "great society" policies that create single parent benefits. Encourage men and women to commit to a long term relationship before having kids, and then raising those kids with intent and purpose.
Make me king for year and I'll make Vlad the Impaler look like Mr. Rogers to the criminal community. Like a hot knife through warm butter.
Prison should be so horrific and miserable that people actually fear being sent there. And the whole time they are there they should be doing everything within their power to make sure they never get sent back.
The eye for an eye thing is what I'm thinking. You get caught stealing, you lose a hand. You kill someone, you are killed 24 hours after a guilty verdict.
"But what about saving those poor misguided souls?" you may ask.
frick that. We already have a surplus of shitbags as it is. We aren't going to miss any. Start raising productive members of society and destroy "thug cultcha". Do away with the "great society" policies that create single parent benefits. Encourage men and women to commit to a long term relationship before having kids, and then raising those kids with intent and purpose.
Make me king for year and I'll make Vlad the Impaler look like Mr. Rogers to the criminal community. Like a hot knife through warm butter.
Posted on 9/7/22 at 10:11 am to NIH
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You’re talking about rehabbing people who were likely lost by their teens. The only rehab that works is a lot of time.
Quite the contrary, length of sentence is generally inversely correlated to probability of rehabilitation, with the exception of holding someone so long that they reach middle age or later (which you’ll sometimes hear referred to as “criminal menopause”). Relatively short sentences with heavy and immediate emphasis on education and job training seems to be most effective re: rehabilitation.
Posted on 9/7/22 at 10:18 am to Joshjrn
I think it's great how terrible folks itt think the criminal justice system is, and the fix is having this broken system kill more people.
Posted on 9/7/22 at 10:27 am to Geekboy
Commies and nihilists stand in between us and the criminals.
Let’s get medieval on them first
Let’s get medieval on them first
Posted on 9/7/22 at 10:28 am to Joshjrn
Do you believe the perp responsible for the egregious murder and kidnapping of the Memphis woman should face the death penalty?
Posted on 9/7/22 at 10:30 am to Breauxsif
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Do you believe the perp responsible for the egregious murder and kidnapping of the Memphis woman should face the death penalty?
How many times are we going to do this dance?
I’m categorically against the death penalty both for philosophical and pragmatic reasons, as I’ve explained on here, at great length, a great many times
Posted on 9/7/22 at 10:34 am to TygerTyger
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I think we need to give up on the idea of rehabilitation and lean in hard as frick on punishment/deterrent.
Prison should be so horrific and miserable that people actually fear being sent there. And the whole time they are there they should be doing everything within their power to make sure they never get sent back.
I'm with you on this. You can't rehabilitate criminals who are just itching to get back when you let them out. Prison needs to be feared.
Posted on 9/7/22 at 10:35 am to Joshjrn
So what type of punishment in your opinion, fits the Memphis homicide? Or is rehabilitation possible?
Posted on 9/7/22 at 10:39 am to Geekboy
Woody Dumas mayor BR issued a warning to citizens of BR stay home during some protests(I guess around the country and I don't know the year either), I think he set a curfew and said anybody outside after curfew will be shot on the spot. Whatever year it was, I may not have be born yet or too young to know about.
I remember during the BLM protests wondering why the mayors or governors didn't do the same.
I remember during the BLM protests wondering why the mayors or governors didn't do the same.
Posted on 9/7/22 at 10:49 am to Geekboy
Go public - guillotine, gallows, firing squad make better deterrents than lethal injections (too painless, too private).
Posted on 9/7/22 at 10:54 am to Geekboy
Our prison system should be North Korean style prison system.
Posted on 9/7/22 at 10:54 am to Breauxsif
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So what type of punishment in your opinion, fits the Memphis homicide? Or is rehabilitation possible?
I'm curious to see this answer as well. If he says rehabilitation, I'll know for sure that he's just naive and gullible.
Posted on 9/7/22 at 10:54 am to Breauxsif
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So what type of punishment in your opinion, fits the Memphis homicide? Or is rehabilitation possible?
I honestly haven’t been following that case at all, beyond seeing the headlines, so I have no idea whether I believe he’s capable or rehabilitation, or hell, whether he even did it. Literally no clue.
To answer in the abstract, I believe that life with the opportunity (but by no means guarantee) for parole after serving 30 years or reaching the age of 65, whichever comes first, should be the maximum sentence available, regardless of crime committed. And again, doesn’t mean they get parole. But they should at least get a shot at coming before the parole board.
Posted on 9/7/22 at 10:56 am to Breauxsif
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Do you believe the perp responsible for the egregious murder and kidnapping of the Memphis woman should face the death penalty?
Yes.
Posted on 9/7/22 at 10:57 am to Big Gorilla
Firing squads and hangings need to make a come back and none of this sitting on death row for years
Posted on 9/7/22 at 10:58 am to JawjaTigah
Some people should never be released. More than one violent crime, you should stay in prison.
Empty the prisons of drug dealers who don't have violence attached to their record, fill the jails full of thieves and violent offenders.
If youve been in jail 30 years, you're not fit to live outside again. Death penalty should never be off the table, at least for bargaining.
Empty the prisons of drug dealers who don't have violence attached to their record, fill the jails full of thieves and violent offenders.
If youve been in jail 30 years, you're not fit to live outside again. Death penalty should never be off the table, at least for bargaining.
This post was edited on 9/7/22 at 11:00 am
Posted on 9/7/22 at 10:59 am to Joshjrn
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To answer in the abstract, I believe that life with the opportunity (but by no means guarantee) for parole after serving 30 years or reaching the age of 65, whichever comes first, should be the maximum sentence available, regardless of crime committed.
I'm with you for most of your posts here, but what's your plan for 66 year olds who commit murder or molest a kid after 65?
Posted on 9/7/22 at 11:00 am to Geekboy
Unfortunately, it's going in the opposite direction:
Jason Williams - New Orleans
Larry Krasner - Philadelphia
George Gascon - Los Angeles
Kim Foxx - Chicago
Alvin Bragg - NYC
Notice any correlation?
Jason Williams - New Orleans
Larry Krasner - Philadelphia
George Gascon - Los Angeles
Kim Foxx - Chicago
Alvin Bragg - NYC
Notice any correlation?
Posted on 9/7/22 at 11:02 am to MoarKilometers
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I'm with you for most of your posts here, but what's your plan for 66 year olds who commit murder or molest a kid after 65?
Don’t need a separate one. In Louisiana, once eligible for parole, you are allowed to apply every two years. So let them apply after two years. The odds of their receiving parole would basically be zero. But if in a few years they are on their death bed, the parole board would have the power to release them into hospice, if they so choose.
People vastly overestimate the leniency of the parole board in this state. They say no orders of magnitude more often than they say yes, at least when it comes to crimes with victims.
This post was edited on 9/7/22 at 11:03 am
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