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re: It’s pretty much fact the earth flooded around 12,000 years ago (younger dryas)

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Posted by MountainTiger
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Posted on 1/11/19 at 2:59 pm to
The latter.
Posted by AlxTgr
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Posted on 1/11/19 at 3:01 pm to
It's all about the Bosphorus and the Black Sea.
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Posted on 1/11/19 at 3:06 pm to
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There is absolutely no evidence whatsoever of a global flood. None. Zero. Zilch.


The uniformitarian sect of the church of progress would like for you to believe that...

LINK

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An open letter to a critic on the matter of chevrons, megatsunamis and bolide impacts.
by Randall Carlson



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I am addressing this response to one issue raised regarding remarks about possible mega-tsunami deposits that I brought up during the podcast. It is my impression after investing a fair amount of time researching this phenomenon that it warrants serious consideration, especially in light of what we have witnessed during the past decade, two tsunami induced mega-disasters in Japan and the Indian Ocean. Several comments were particularly dismissive, so I am setting down this small exposition, without malice, to demonstrate that the remarks made on The Joe Rogan Experience were preceded by a substantial amount of background research and thought. While the following remarks pertain to this one issue specifically, they are also relevant to the general attitude evinced in many of the other comments critical of something I said that are obviously being made by individuals whose preconceived opinions were incompatible with the information I presented and their objections were nothing more than a knee jerk emotional response rather than a reasoned critique with some actual thought behind it.





Chevron forms created on a stream sandbar by local spring floods in Georgia, USA. The significant point is that these forms were produced by flowing water, not wind. After the flood subsides and the sand deposits dry out they will become subject to wind erosion and modification until they are stabilized by vegetation.




Chevron forms found on the southern tip of Madagascar. Were these formations created by wind or water? If the chevrons are formed of fine-grained wind transported sediment why is the line of demarcation at the distal end so distinct? What kind of aeolian process would produce features of this form and magnitude? The light colored deposits near the upper end of the chevrons are sand. This sand is undoubtedly being modified by wind, but this does not mean that the whole complex of lancet-like forms composing the chevrons were originally created by wind.

For scale...







The Burckle Crater impact is speculated to be Noah's flood...
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Small scale parabolic dune forms and hummocky topography produced by local flooding in Peachtree Creek, GA are clearly visible in this photograph. The open end of the parabola seen in the top center points in the up-current direction which was from right to left. Again, these sedimentary forms are initially produced by flowing water and later modified by wind.



Large scale parabolic dune forms on the Rolling Palouse landscape of SE Washington State. Note the large parabolic shaped dune in the foreground. It opens upcurrent, flow was from right to left (north to south). Compare the general morphology of this landscape with the water shaped forms in the previous photograph. This landscape is the product of wind AND water. A study of mega-scale paleohydrology reveals the scale-invariant, or self-similar nature of fluvial forms across a wide variety of spatial scales and signifies its value as a means of comparison and recognition of mega features whose origins it is not possible to witness directly.









Summary:

-comet impact on North American icecap, images above (cooling was the existing paradigm prior to this)
-massive, cataclysmic flooding (see Washington state photo above)
-sea levels rise, massive amount of water vapor injected into the atmophere leading to a greenhouse effect/ rapid warming

Multiple impacts of varying scale have occurred leading to cyclical change....

Randall does a better job of describing this (in great, well referenced length) than I am above in this overview. His site and vids are definitely worth looking into.

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Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Posted on 1/11/19 at 3:07 pm to
Here is your impact crater:


https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-46181450

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Greenland ice sheet hides huge 'impact crater'
By Jonathan Amos BBC Science Correspondent 6 hours ago


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What looks to be a large impact crater has been identified beneath the Greenland ice sheet. The 31km-wide depression came to light when scientists examined radar images of the island's bedrock.

Investigations suggest the feature was probably dug out by a 1.5km-wide iron asteroid sometime between about 12,000 and three million years ago.




Posted by Fun Bunch
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Posted on 1/11/19 at 3:07 pm to
Ah the old “I’m going to laugh at something to suggest it’s ludicrous when in fact my own points could not be any more batshit insane”.

Good times.
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Posted on 1/11/19 at 3:11 pm to
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Where did all the water come from/go?



The bollide impact was on an icecap that was miles deep

The water / deluge came from instant melting of the ice

The water is now in the ocean (water levels were lower at the time , “coastal” communities at that time were then flooded)

Things ain’t like they used to be...
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Posted on 1/11/19 at 3:16 pm to
Science Alert



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Ancient Stone Carvings Show a Comet Swarm Hitting Earth Around 10,950 BCE Around the time civilisation changed forever.

FIONA MACDONALD 22 APR 2017


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Researchers have translated famous ancient symbols in a temple in Turkey, and they tell the story of a devastating comet impact more than 13,000 years ago.


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"I think this research, along with the recent finding of a widespread platinum anomaly across the North American continent virtually seal the case in favour of [a Younger Dryas comet impact]," lead researcher Martin Sweatman told Sarah Knapton from The Telegraph.


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The dating of these carvings also matches an ice core taken from Greenland, which pinpoints the Younger Dryas period as beginning around 10,890 BCE .




https://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/2017/04/21/ancient-stone-carvings-confirm-comet-struck-earth-10950bc-wiping/


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Clay tablet holds clue to asteroid mystery
By Nic Fleming, Science Correspondent
12:01AM BST 31 Mar 2008

British scientists have deciphered a mysterious ancient clay tablet and believe they have solved a riddle over a giant asteroid impact more than 5,000 years ago.

Geologists have long puzzled over the shape of the land close to the town of Köfels in the Austrian Alps, but were unable to prove it had been caused by an asteroid.

Now researchers say their translation of symbols on a star map from an ancient civilisation includes notes on a mile-wide asteroid that later hit Earth - which could have caused tens of thousands of deaths. The circular clay tablet was discovered 150 years ago by Sir Austen Henry Layard, a leading Victorian archaeologist, in the remains of the royal palace at Nineveh, capital of ancient Assyria, in what is now Iraq.





Posted by BiggerBear
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Posted on 1/11/19 at 3:18 pm to
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Perhaps the earth actually orbited on a different axis (and revolved around the sun much faster) before the comet hit us 13,000 years ago.


You suck so bad at thinking about science that you should probably do a lot less of it.
Posted by Bow to Auburn
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Posted on 1/11/19 at 3:19 pm to
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Faster obit due to a force vector in line with orbit at one point in time and later a slower orbit due to a slightly opposing force vector at another point in time


Faster or slower would change the distance we are orbiting due to a constant gravitational pull from the sun.
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Posted on 1/11/19 at 3:25 pm to
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You suck so bad at thinking about science that you should probably do a lot less of it.


Completely dismissing radical ideas is a hallmark of the sect of material reductionist, uniformitarian science. It is not a hallmark of true science...

I thing you are going to need a bigger bear...

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0waMBY3qEA4

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RUPERT SHELDRAKE: Science Set Free, Part 1 | EU2013 122,349 views 1.5K 43 Share Save Report
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Published on Jan 22, 2013

Part 1 of a talk by Rupert Sheldrake at the conference ELECTRIC UNIVERSE 2013: The Tipping Point, in Albuquerque, New Mexico. SEE PART 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRKvvx... Many scientists like to think that science already understands the ways of the natural world. The fundamental questions are answered, leaving only the details to be filled in. The impressive achievements of science seemed to support this confident attitude. But recent research has revealed unexpected problems at the heart of physics, cosmology, biology, medicine and psychology. Dr. Sheldrake is a biologist and author of more than 80 scientific papers and 10 books, including Science Set Free (September 2012).
This post was edited on 1/11/19 at 3:27 pm
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Posted on 1/11/19 at 3:26 pm to
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Faster or slower would change the distance we are orbiting due to a constant gravitational pull from the sun.


What if gravity is not the prime mover of celestial mechanics?

What if electromagnetism is what is fundamental...
Posted by MountainTiger
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Posted on 1/11/19 at 3:29 pm to
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Completely dismissing radical ideas is a hallmark of the sect of material reductionist, uniformitarian science. It is not a hallmark of true science...

If you are counter-trolling unknownknight then son you are doing the Lord's Work.
Posted by IrishEyes
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Posted on 1/11/19 at 3:30 pm to
Someone's read Magicians of the Gods. Well, if you haven't, I think it's very important that you do. You're getting warmer grasshopper.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
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Posted on 1/11/19 at 3:34 pm to
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If you are counter-trolling unknownknight then son you are doing the Lord's Work.




He's not.
Posted by TBoy
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Posted on 1/11/19 at 3:35 pm to
Once on mushrooms I had sex with a dinosaur. FACT!
Posted by Mo Jeaux
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Posted on 1/11/19 at 3:36 pm to
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Some worship cataclysm / catastrophe...
The symbols are representative of the astrological visions that were seen during the cataclysm (electrical phenomenon)

As such, these folks do as they please (decadence, hedonism, etc...)
All in the name of Saturn



This is one of my favorites of yours. I don't understand it at all.
Posted by Dr RC
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Posted on 1/11/19 at 3:36 pm to
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1. People across all cultures lived several hundred years (because of the increased revolution)




Or maybe somewhere along the way somebody fricked up a translation or didn't understand a metaphor when hand copying the bible and then a 100 years later ignorant fools reading it were all "Oh damn! They lived for 700 years?!? God must have punished us with short life spans because.... reasons!"
This post was edited on 1/11/19 at 6:01 pm
Posted by OweO
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Posted on 1/11/19 at 3:48 pm to
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This would also explain how ancient civilizations could move large thousand ton blocks. During the night, the increased revolution speed lead to lighter gravity.


Do you realize Earth is the perfect formula for life to exist? In other words, if the gravitational pull was a little stronger, everything would weigh more. Birds struggle trying to fly, when people fall down it would be a stronger impact, etc. And if it was any lighter people would not be as strong, because they wouldn't have to be. That would have had a big impact on evolution.

It would have an impact on water. It would pretty much throw everything out of whack and it wouldn't be possible to have life.. So this pretty much ends your argument.
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Posted on 1/11/19 at 3:54 pm to
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This is one of my favorites of yours. I don't understand it at all.


You can at least clean the fish I brought for you
Posted by League Champs
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Posted on 1/11/19 at 3:57 pm to
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But remember, only that one bible from that one religion tells the truth. All those other, much older, more accurate accounts of the flood were put there by the debil to confuse you and all the heathens.

Its sad that intelligent people claim to accept that humans with varying physical traits evolved from a single organism, and all languages evolved from a single source, and farming techniques evolved out of a specific location, as did animal domestication, but then they become completely retarded with the suggestion that all religion evolved from a single belief system …

… even with the well documented case of Judaism evolving into a cacophony of religions that have sprung up in just the last 2,000 years.

The flood is a common element in all religions, because it did happen, and the survivors passed the story on, as religions began evolving into what they are today. Its not that hard of a concept, unless youre simply not capable of abstract thought.
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