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re: It’s amazing what they’ve done to our food supply

Posted on 9/7/24 at 10:02 am to
Posted by clamdip
Rocky Mountain High
Member since Sep 2004
20678 posts
Posted on 9/7/24 at 10:02 am to
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Yes and it needs to be an elected position. You think the FDA and USDA do a good job?

Elected positions don't help when the only candidates put forward are owned by the corporations they are supposed to be regulating. Just look at that fat Ag Commish we have in Louisiana. He rides to the state Capitol with the Farm Bureau lobbyists, who answer to Big Ag.

And check this chart out:



The US spends far less on food, as a % of income, than other countries, developed or underdeveloped.

One reason, for example, is the huge government subsidies on corn, which permeates all processed food. All of it.

As a result, Americans go the cheap (and engineered sweet/salty) route and stuff their pantries and guts with extremely unhealthy food. Or should I say "food-like substances."

So, at least part of the problem is government interference in markets and food inputs. And then there's the government regulatory agencies being in deep capture to Big Ag/Food and Big Pharma.
Posted by clamdip
Rocky Mountain High
Member since Sep 2004
20678 posts
Posted on 9/7/24 at 10:03 am to
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Trader Joes has a lot of items with limited natural ingredients. Whole Foods too probably.

That's mostly marketing. Note that every Whole Foods brand 365 nuts are roasted in seed oils.
Posted by Delacroix22
Member since Aug 2013
4537 posts
Posted on 9/7/24 at 10:30 am to
I’m small government but we are beyond that

I hate to throw around this term but we are an oligarchy at this point. You simply can not deny it.

Big pharma
Big tech
Big food
Big oil

They lobby the government. Every politician is bought and paid for.

They pay the government to turn a blind eye while they control what we eat, put in our bodies, read, see, think, drive, purchase, etc.

Something must be done.

And the most powerful lobby is the AIPAC.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
73254 posts
Posted on 9/7/24 at 10:32 am to
It's the US go to Europe Ave products are simpler and meat didn't have all the additives.
Posted by zippyputt
Member since Jul 2005
6844 posts
Posted on 9/7/24 at 11:08 am to
I was shocked at the crap in both Trader Joe’s and Whole Foods products. Depends on the item and brand. That’s why I try to scan them.
Posted by lsusa
Doing Missionary work for LSU
Member since Oct 2005
6213 posts
Posted on 9/7/24 at 11:14 am to
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Water sucks.


You mean that stuff in the toilet?

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Gatorade is better.


It’s got what plants crave!
Posted by Auburn80
Backwater, TN
Member since Nov 2017
9612 posts
Posted on 9/7/24 at 11:21 am to
So Hershey’s Chocolate Syrup has never had chocolate in it.
Posted by OU812ME2
Earth
Member since Jun 2021
1339 posts
Posted on 9/7/24 at 11:29 am to
Anyone who has dieted and actually watched what they eat knows this already. It's sad how corrupt the govt agencies are because they sellout to the big companies while completely putting up roadblocks for smaller companies. Just look at their stance and crusade against raw milk. Basically take everything they say and do the opposite of you feel like living.
Posted by TripleBarrelBluff1
Sin City
Member since Aug 2024
2430 posts
Posted on 9/7/24 at 11:34 am to
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And the most powerful lobby is the AIPAC.




Everything you said was spot on.
Posted by Esquire
Chiraq
Member since Apr 2014
14417 posts
Posted on 9/7/24 at 11:35 am to
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Just look at their stance and crusade against raw milk.


I’ll side with the government on this one. Raw milk is nasty.
Posted by TCO
Member since Jul 2022
3261 posts
Posted on 9/7/24 at 11:44 am to
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frick these people.


Or maybe just stay away from chick-fil-a?

Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
35088 posts
Posted on 9/7/24 at 12:42 pm to
And if you read Bryars box it’s not “ice cream”. It’s “frozen dessert” or some shite. It doesn’t even meet the fda criteria of “ice cream” anymore.
Posted by Flavius C Julianus
Member since Sep 2024
129 posts
Posted on 9/7/24 at 12:42 pm to
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I’ll side with the government on this one. Raw milk is nasty.


You’re the same guy who thinks something is better for you just because the label says that it’s “organic”.

Raw milk is what people drank for millennia until the early 20th century. And it wasn’t until the industrialization of our food supply that tainted milk became a widespread thing necessitating pasteurization.
Posted by Esquire
Chiraq
Member since Apr 2014
14417 posts
Posted on 9/7/24 at 1:15 pm to
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Raw milk is what people drank for millennia until the early 20th century.


Right up to the point medical science advanced enough to tell us when someone died from drinking bad milk. Crazy coincidence.
Posted by Flavius C Julianus
Member since Sep 2024
129 posts
Posted on 9/7/24 at 1:18 pm to
You ignored the part about industrialization, organic boy.
Posted by lsuconnman
Baton rouge
Member since Feb 2007
4500 posts
Posted on 9/7/24 at 1:19 pm to
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The US spends far less on food, as a % of income, than other countries, developed or underdeveloped. One reason, for example, is


That chart says the opposite to me. Average income is $3600/yr in Cameroon v $60k/yr in the US. So the typical food cost in Cameroon is $1600 vs $3000 in the US.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
71946 posts
Posted on 9/7/24 at 1:21 pm to
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There is an organic version of everything you buy. It might be a little pricier and require a little more work to prepare, but the government isn’t needed to solve consumer laziness.

Even the "organic" market in our country is full of frickery and corner cutting that dilutes what "organic" is supposed to represent.
Posted by Esquire
Chiraq
Member since Apr 2014
14417 posts
Posted on 9/7/24 at 1:22 pm to
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You ignored the part about industrialization, organic boy.


Should we go back to owning our own cow if we want milk?
Posted by meeple
Carcassonne
Member since May 2011
10850 posts
Posted on 9/7/24 at 1:23 pm to
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no surprise we’re sicker and fatter.

The Food AND Drug Administration has this under control!
Posted by Flavius C Julianus
Member since Sep 2024
129 posts
Posted on 9/7/24 at 1:29 pm to
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Should we go back to owning our own cow if we want milk?


If you want to. I buy my raw milk from a local farming source.
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