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Posted on 10/9/23 at 1:25 pm to
Posted by Burt Orangello
DFW
Member since Sep 2023
638 posts
Posted on 10/9/23 at 1:25 pm to
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yes there is. Palestinians murdered and raped a bunch of kids at a peace festival (kids supporting them) and lobbed 7500 missiles onto innocent people.

They will get what they deserve.

Iran should also deserve whatever Israel unleashes.


Well, no shite.

I swear, some of y'all just want to argue and don't even think first. You isolate something, remove all context, and then whack away at it.

Yeah, THOSE Palestinians did those things. THOSE Palestinians (and anyone else involved...actually involved, not just "a Palestinian") should and probably will get what they deserve.

Iran has deserved an arse-kicking for years and may have just given Israel a decent enough excuse to come at them. Iran should not be underestimated through. That will be no cakewalk.

None of that is a rebuttal to anything I've said. But hey, ZING! Ya got me...if you say so.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298965 posts
Posted on 10/9/23 at 1:27 pm to
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I swear, some of y'all just want to argue and don't even think first. You isolate something, remove all context, and then whack away at it.


Absolutely not.

Unprovoked attack on kids who werent even Israeli.

Are you gonna cry when Gaza is flattened?
Posted by Hateradedrink
Member since May 2023
4156 posts
Posted on 10/9/23 at 1:31 pm to
I think the issue is people aren’t sure what your actual position is.

If it’s “Palestinians should not be exterminated” then yeah sure

If it’s “Palestinian civilian casualties are a moral shortcoming of Israel” then nah
Posted by Ziggy
Member since Oct 2007
22109 posts
Posted on 10/9/23 at 1:31 pm to
Gaza is currently getting lit up on YT Reuters channel.
Posted by tilco
Spanish Fort, AL
Member since Nov 2013
14478 posts
Posted on 10/9/23 at 1:31 pm to
Unfortunately those kids will grow up to be future Muslim soldiers who also want death to infidels. Best to just wipe it all clean. It’s unfortunate but it’s also reality.
Posted by dr
texas
Member since Mar 2022
1321 posts
Posted on 10/9/23 at 1:31 pm to
"Behold, Damascus will cease to be a city
and will become a heap of ruins.
The cities of Aroer are deserted;
they will be for flocks,
which will lie down, and none will make them afraid.
The fortress will disappear from Ephraim,
and the kingdom from Damascus;
and the remnant of Syria will be
like the glory of the children of Israel,’
declares the Lord of hosts”
Posted by MrLSU
Yellowstone, Val d'isere
Member since Jan 2004
29730 posts
Posted on 10/9/23 at 1:32 pm to

"Hashim Safi Al Din - Head of the Executive Council and number two in Hezbollah. "The spirit of Qassem Soleimani was present in Gaza with all the heroic fighters"... For those who needed more proof of the connection between Hamas, Hezbollah and Iran. His son is married to the daughter of former Quds Force commander Qassem Soleimani."
Israel-Alma
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
143785 posts
Posted on 10/9/23 at 1:33 pm to
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Burt Orangello


Are you saying, “some people did something”?

Posted by Bobby OG Johnson
Member since Apr 2015
33487 posts
Posted on 10/9/23 at 1:34 pm to
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Burt Orangello



Stop tap dancing and come on out as the terrorist sympathizer that you are
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298965 posts
Posted on 10/9/23 at 1:34 pm to
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Unfortunately those kids will grow up to be future Muslim soldiers who also want death to infidels. Best to just wipe it all clean. It’s unfortunate but it’s also reality.


I'm sure there are enough good people in Palestine who feel powerless over foreign agents fricking up their lives by continually attacking Israel.

The leaders of these groups live in luxury far from the war.
Posted by Old Money
LSU
Member since Sep 2012
41770 posts
Posted on 10/9/23 at 1:35 pm to
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Unfortunately those kids will grow up to be future Muslim soldiers who also want death to infidels. Best to just wipe it all clean. It’s unfortunate but it’s also reality.


That is a very dangerous view to hold, imo.
Posted by msutiger
Houston
Member since Jul 2008
71995 posts
Posted on 10/9/23 at 1:37 pm to
Nobody even knows what you are trying to argue other than if Palestine is a state or not.

It really doesn’t change anything. Hamas is the party in control of the Gaza Strip. Israel should and will likely seize that territory permanently. Anyone standing in the way of that will be dealt with.

The Fatah wants to escalate things in the West Bank.

Anything and everything related to Hamas or the Fatah movement should be wiped out in the Gaza Strip and the West Bank. Those structures, organizations or whatever you want to call them, regardless of how unorganized they are, cannot be allowed to stand within Israel’s borders.
This post was edited on 10/9/23 at 1:38 pm
Posted by Chicken
Jackassistan
Member since Aug 2003
27471 posts
Posted on 10/9/23 at 1:39 pm to
News links:
Times Of Israel
The Jerusalem Post
New York Post Coverage
This post was edited on 11/16/23 at 2:13 pm
Posted by Mud_Bone
Member since Dec 2021
2357 posts
Posted on 10/9/23 at 1:43 pm to
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The strike group includes the aircraft carrier USS Gerald R. Ford (CVN-78), the Ticonderoga-class guided missile cruiser USS Normandy (CG 60), and the Arleigh-Burke-class guided missile destroyers USS Thomas Hudner (DDG 116), USS Ramage (DDG 61), USS Carney (DDG 64) and USS Roosevelt (DDG 80). That's a big bat.


I literally said “ America, frick YEAH” out loud at work.

I suddenly needed to turn my screen off and reboot!
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
51688 posts
Posted on 10/9/23 at 1:44 pm to
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Reuters Live Feed From Gaza You can toggle the player to go back in time.

Yeah, that’s been a wild stream. Lots of explosions throughout the day.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298965 posts
Posted on 10/9/23 at 1:44 pm to
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Stop tap dancing and come on out as the terrorist sympathizer that you are



Hes dancing around something.
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
24238 posts
Posted on 10/9/23 at 1:45 pm to
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Hamas having control in Gaza =/= your statement of "Hamas has overwhelming support within Palestine and the Islamic community as a whole."

Please link where I have ever said this.

You're getting emotional now.
This post was edited on 10/9/23 at 1:45 pm
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126745 posts
Posted on 10/9/23 at 1:45 pm to
Bibi speaking now but Fox is the only network not showing it
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
51688 posts
Posted on 10/9/23 at 1:46 pm to
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Bibi speaking now but Fox is the only network not showing it

They were but he was not speaking English and they had no translation.
Posted by Burt Orangello
DFW
Member since Sep 2023
638 posts
Posted on 10/9/23 at 1:46 pm to
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Absolutely not.

Unprovoked attack on kids who werent even Israeli.

Are you gonna cry when Gaza is flattened?


I have carried a gun for a living my entire adult life. I've prevented wrongs and I have righted some wrongs. I dig it.

That doesn't mean I'm a moron and only capable of digesting intellectual oatmeal. I've "walked the land", so to speak, know a little something about this (or I wouldn't be commenting on it), and am well aware of the details/nuance involved.

I've had some unavoidable downtime and have the ability to type of some stuff on the internet, so I'm happy to be helpful/informative on such a complex topic. If that's not welcome/well received or people would rather think the bullet points on Wiki/Google tell the whole story, then fine by me. I don't give a shite about what people in the internet think (or their "downvotes" <--- the notion is hilarious, as if an upvote/downvote means anything) and I can't make anyone pull their head out of their arse if they're intent on keeping it there.

The only thing I've been arguing against is the oversimplification/reductionist bullshite being thrown around here. It's a dangerous way to think (I don't really consider it thinking, to be honest; it's much more akin to emotion) and leaves people ripe for manipulation.

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