re: Israel–Hamas War Discussion Thread: News Links On First Page

Do you have any evidence I made the claim that Hamas doesn't enjoy support from Palestinians?

You don't. You built a strawman and then whacked at it with a ridiculous article that states, within the article itself, why your use of it was dumb.

Re: "trust me bro"

I deal in facts, logical, and unemotional/rational thought. I don't do fallacies, including appeals to authority.

I haven't thrown out credentials or other details for several reasons. The most I've said about myself is that I lived/worked over there for years and know the ground/situation in great detail. It was my business to know then and I have kept up with it since.

I have had some unavoidable down time over the last few weeks and thought I might offer some perspective on a current topic I know quite a bit about.

It's the internet. If it gets lost in the bullshite and you (and others) want to remain ignorant/misinformed, fine with me.

Here's the irony - we probably agree on the overarching issue (who should do what to whom). The difference is when such a position is taken, I think it should be based on a foundation of facts. The right position, when based on bullshite, leaves room for the details (and therefore the position itself, even if right) to be attacked.

But people don't read and/or take the time to process. They just interpret "no, not every Pali wants to kill Jews" as taking Hamas' side, become apoplectic, and start arguing against a strawman. It not only detracts from informational debate/discussion, but also makes people look really REALLY fricking dumb.

I find it ironic that the same people who scream “Free Palestine” and are mad that Jews build communities in “Palestinian lands” are the same ones who support open borders and unlimited immigration here in the US.

You are very emotional about this topic, completely unprovoked as well. Calm down.

I posted a link to a survey with data. You have done pretty much nothing besides post your own opinion.

Hamas had 53% support of Palestinians in 2021. Do you have evidence it went down since then?

Multiple videos have surfaced of Palestinians cheering and celebrating after the attacks. Do you have videos of Palestinians condemning the attacks?

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Odd situation but true.

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Ironically, I'm the one having to remind both of my parents that most of the shite they're sharing on FB is fake.

I also had to walk my dad through how to set up a TV antenna.

Gaza is about to fricking leveled.

This is very accurate. To think most Palestinians are backwards people who support terrorism is so untrue. They are just normal people who want to live normal lives without having insane restrictions on their daily freedom. The loudest and worst voices always get the most attention (think people being afraid of “white nationalism ” in the US due to who the media gives attention to). Your average Palestinian doesn’t hate jews, they dislike the Zionist Israeli government that is oppressive to them.

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Gaza is about to fricking leveled.

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people say this every time there is a dust up over there.

This is bit more than a dust up.

Looks like near constant air strikes now. I don’t see a scenario where there isn’t a full scale invasion of Gaza by the Israelis.

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Is Hamas still attacking Israel? Especially soft targets similar to the music festival?

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I think they are finishing up clearing some of the neighborhoods where Hamas was going door to door. May be done now. It's not real clear.

They're still taking pot shots across the border. Hezbollah is doing the same in the north from the Lebanese border. The ro ket barrage from Gaza have continued since the initial attack as well. Iron Dome been putting in work, but they're saturating the air so much that some get through.