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re: Israel–Hamas War Discussion Thread: News Links On First Page
Posted on 10/20/23 at 6:20 am to Pettifogger
Posted on 10/20/23 at 6:20 am to Pettifogger
We can't as a country continue to allow these anti sementic bigots to hold an office.
It's absolute bullshite.
It's absolute bullshite.
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Posted on 10/20/23 at 6:26 am to Pettifogger
yeah I mean imagine holding your religion over the country, like damn who would do that? especially at a time like this with wars everywhere
Posted on 10/20/23 at 6:29 am to Chicken
FAFO day will be Monday 10-23-23 and the US will be neck deep. The Irony of that date should not be lost on anyone over 55. Hopefully our president can distract the enemies by talking about first responders or Ukraine.
Posted on 10/20/23 at 7:11 am to Pettifogger
There’s still a ton of people that whole heartedly believe Israel definitely bombed the hospital and killed 500 people. They think it’s ridiculous to even question it. Even know (mutually) one person that went from kinda pro Israel to pro Palestine mainly bc of it
This post was edited on 10/20/23 at 7:12 am
Posted on 10/20/23 at 7:27 am to choupiquesushi
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FAFO day will be Monday 10-23-23 and the US will be neck deep.
you have a source for this or?
This post was edited on 10/20/23 at 7:28 am
Posted on 10/20/23 at 7:34 am to Eighteen
So.... about that church "strike":
Yet again, the legacy media rushed to report something as if it were a fact, only to be disproved yet again. Maybe the question the media should be asking, is why does Hamas continue to hide amongst civilian locations and use their infrastructure and people as defense shields?
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OSINTdefender @sentdefender The Greek-Orthodox Church of Saint Porphyrius, one of the Oldest Churches in the World having Opened in 1150, which was claimed to have been Targeted last night by an Israeli Airstrikes now appears to have only suffered Moderate Damage and was not the Actual Target of the Strike; the Target Building was a Location next to the Church Complex which Partially-Collapsed onto an Section of the Church following the Attack.
Yet again, the legacy media rushed to report something as if it were a fact, only to be disproved yet again. Maybe the question the media should be asking, is why does Hamas continue to hide amongst civilian locations and use their infrastructure and people as defense shields?
Posted on 10/20/23 at 7:47 am to NYNolaguy1
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Even if there's Arab Israelis living in Israel (peacefully) now?
Minority population
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I am not sure if I buy onto the religious justification for Israel's existence. Why does it have to be a Jewish state?
Seriously?
Israel exist so that there can never be a Jewish genocide again. It’s a home for Jews, religious and secular.
You should probably read “The Declaration of the Establishment of the State of Israel“
Posted on 10/20/23 at 7:48 am to BayouBengal51
it is easier to report shite, and then if they feel like issue a 1/2 assed retraction with no real value or apology behind it - because there is no accountability for them.
Posted on 10/20/23 at 8:00 am to choupiquesushi
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FAFO day will be Monday 10-23-23 and the US will be neck deep.
I honestly didn’t remember the date, but remember when it happened.
Ironically, and going back to a previous discussion, that was one of the times the Mossad apparently had intel but didn’t pass it on to the US.
This post was edited on 10/20/23 at 8:07 am
Posted on 10/20/23 at 8:01 am to Thracken13
@JSchanzer
Xwitter
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Now that the Ashli hospital flap is over, the media must prepare for a story that will be difficult to navigate. The Al-Shifa hospital in Gaza City is also the command center for Hamas. At some point, it will be an Israeli target. A legitimate military target, per the laws of war
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There will be massive information operations when this command center is targeted. Al-Jazeera and others will lead the charge. They will ignore that Mohammed Deif & Yahya Sinwar are there, among other Hamas military . I strongly recommend reporters start gathering facts now.
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Among other things, media should gather info on the underground of the al-Shifa compound, Mohammed Deif, Yahya Sinwar, American human shields legislation, NATO-UN views on human shields & Hamas info ops.
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War is ugly. This very predictable episode will only underscore that.
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And just to remind folks: after an utter media failure, in which multiple outlets mistakenly reported an Israeli war crime, there has been a total revision based on facts that contradict the original erroneous reporting.
There will be a next time. It can’t be more clear: Shifa.
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Also worth noting, Israel will not have much of a choice when the Shifa moment arrives. Hamas will fight brutally to the end, and it will fight behind civilians. This is a dynamic that cannot be ignored. Al-Shifa will be the eye of the storm.
Xwitter
Posted on 10/20/23 at 8:06 am to NYNolaguy1
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I am not sure if I buy onto the religious justification for Israel's existence. Why does it have to be a Jewish state?
Why can there be 3 Islamic republics and 50 Muslim majority countries? No one has a problem with that.
Posted on 10/20/23 at 8:17 am to LegendInMyMind
@IsraelRadar_com
Xwitter
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IDF approves war logistics plans for all divisions going into Gaza; senior officer says all forces at high level of readiness in terms of new tech & war supplies (via @ynetalerts). The moment of truth is nearing.
Xwitter
Posted on 10/20/23 at 8:23 am to LegendInMyMind
Google Reviews of the Shifa Hospital are certainly interesting.. 
This is from 3 years ago
“I was surprised. There is no security at all even though everyone knows that there is a Hamas headquarters in the basement. At the entrance there is a large plaque in Hebrew that has not been removed indicating the extensive renovation that the Israelis gave to the hospital, including the
basement floor, as mentioned. However, in the elevator there is no option to press
the minus 1 floor button..... The health services there appear to be professional by any standard and there does not seem to be a lack of medicine or equipment here -
which is often claimed by the Arabs.
Translated by Google • See original (Hebrew)”
This is from 3 years ago
“I was surprised. There is no security at all even though everyone knows that there is a Hamas headquarters in the basement. At the entrance there is a large plaque in Hebrew that has not been removed indicating the extensive renovation that the Israelis gave to the hospital, including the
basement floor, as mentioned. However, in the elevator there is no option to press
the minus 1 floor button..... The health services there appear to be professional by any standard and there does not seem to be a lack of medicine or equipment here -
which is often claimed by the Arabs.
Translated by Google • See original (Hebrew)”
This post was edited on 10/20/23 at 8:24 am
Posted on 10/20/23 at 8:29 am to LegendInMyMind
@JoeTruzman
Xwitter
It sounds like when all this is said and done that Israel intends to withdraw any and all support for the Gaza strip. I don't know where that leaves the occupation question, though.
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Israel Defense Minister Yoav Gallant Meets with Members of the Knesset Foreign Affairs and Defense Committee:
Minister of Defense Yoav Gallant to the Knesset Foreign Affairs and Defense Committee: “We are at war, we have been left no choice. October 7th will be remembered as the day that started the destruction of Hamas.”
This morning (Friday, 20 October 2023), Minister of Defense Yoav Gallant met with members of the Foreign Affairs and Defense Committee in the MOD Headquarters in Tel Aviv. The Committee is chaired by Knesset Member Yuli Edelstein.
During his briefing, Minister Gallant emphasized that the war was launched by the Hamas terrorist organization, forcing Israel to act, and in doing so, Hamas sealed its fate.
Minister Gallant detailed the objectives of the campaign including the elimination of Hamas and destruction of both its military and governing capabilities, the complete removal of Israeli responsibility from the Gaza strip, and the creation of a new security reality in the region.
Minister Gallant: “There will be three stages. We are now in the first stage – a military campaign that currently includes strikes, and will later include maneuvering, with the objective of neutralizing terrorists and destroying Hamas infrastructure.”
“The second phase, an intermediate one, will require operations at lower intensity, with the objective of eliminating ‘pockets of resistance’ (remaining terror hotspots).”
“The third phase will require the removal of Israel’s responsibility for life in the Gaza strip, and the establishment of a new security reality for the citizens of Israel.”
Xwitter
It sounds like when all this is said and done that Israel intends to withdraw any and all support for the Gaza strip. I don't know where that leaves the occupation question, though.
Posted on 10/20/23 at 8:36 am to LegendInMyMind
@IsraelWarRoom
Xwitter
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A document issued by the Palestinian Authority today incites violence against Jews.
It falsely accuses Israel of killing "more than a thousand martyrs" in the "crime against the Baptist Hospital" (the hospital was hit by a PIJ rocket). The document then cites the hadith "The Day of Judgement will not come until the Muslims fight the Jews and the Muslims kill them, until the Jew hides behind the stones and the trees and the stones or the trees say ‘O Muslim, O Servant of God, this is a Jew behind me, Come and kill him.’” This hadith is part of Hamas's charter.
#AbbasIsNotAPeacePartner
Xwitter
Posted on 10/20/23 at 8:56 am to LegendInMyMind
LINK
When your brand is clear eyes on security and Palestinian threats, you can’t fall asleep at the wheel and let a bunch of clowns on amphetamines rampage around for 10 hours before the IDF shows up.
Netanyahu should not survive this blunder and don’t think he will politically.
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As many as 80% of Israelis believe Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu must take responsibility for the security failures exposed by the devastating Oct. 7 assault on Israeli by Hamas, a poll in the Ma'ariv newspaper showed on Friday. The army chief of staff, the head of military intelligence and the head of the Shin Bet intelligence service have all admitted their services failed to prevent the attack, in which some 1,400 Israelis were killed on the deadliest day in Israel's 75-year-old history. Netanyahu's coalition partner, Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich, has also said the government leadership and security leadership had failed to protect the country but the premier himself has yet to make a clear statement of responsibility.
When your brand is clear eyes on security and Palestinian threats, you can’t fall asleep at the wheel and let a bunch of clowns on amphetamines rampage around for 10 hours before the IDF shows up.
Netanyahu should not survive this blunder and don’t think he will politically.
Posted on 10/20/23 at 9:04 am to LegendInMyMind
quote:and people are defending this shite stain "country"...
Jew hides behind the stones and the trees and the stones or the trees say ‘O Muslim, O Servant of God, this is a Jew behind me, Come and kill him.’”
Posted on 10/20/23 at 9:16 am to ned nederlander
It’s going to be awesome when the propaganda stops flowing out of Gaza. That’s when you’ll know hamas has been crippled.
Posted on 10/20/23 at 10:40 am to Chromdome35
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People don't know how to disagree anymore.
I used to think it was just people being unafraid to say awful things from behind a screen that they wouldn't say in person, but I don't even think that anymore.
Hell, antifa throws concrete cylinders at people and the left loves it.
Posted on 10/20/23 at 11:03 am to Stevo
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