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Posted on 10/10/23 at 9:21 pm to
Posted by Fun Bunch
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Posted on 10/10/23 at 9:21 pm to
Egypt hates the Gaza residents almost as much as Israel does. They too have wall because they don’t want them.
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 10/10/23 at 9:24 pm to
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NBC reports that the Biden administration is working with other countries on drafting a plan that would create green corridors for civilians out of Gaza into Egypt


Have they asked Egypt if they want this?
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 10/10/23 at 9:24 pm to
Hamas was elected by the public so idk if it's really fair to look at it as a few rogue operators hiding among an innocent civilian population. It's just a completely shitty situation.
Posted by Burt Orangello
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Posted on 10/10/23 at 9:24 pm to
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Palestinian kids, from preschool age & up, are taught to hate Jews and Christians, but especially Jews.


You've said variations of this several times in this thread and it's a broad sweeping generalization that happens to be inaccurate. I'm guessing you're repeating something you've heard and now you're contributing to the problem.

SOME Palestinian kids are taught to hate Jews, Israelis, Americans, etc. It's much more prevalent in Gaza because Hamas is obviously a lot more hard-line, but "Gaza/Hamas" does NOT equal all Palestinians.

I spent a lot of time (years) running around that place and I'm telling you, from FIRST HAND experience, that your statement is untrue. Most kids over there, outside of Gaza, go to school, run, play, and do kid shite.

Their anti-Jew exposure is about like a kid growing up with a grandpa who bitches about "the Mexicans" or "the blacks." They know people are unhappy because of the situation and they may even perceive the Israelis/Jews as the reason for their predicament, but there's some distance between that and "hate." And there's even more distance between that and picking up a gun.

Your statement applies to SOME, but you're a lot closer to dead wrong than you are right. For every example you can give of a brainwashed kid, there are 100 that aren't.


Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 10/10/23 at 9:26 pm to
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The people of Gaza need to evacuate. They are refugees.



How are they refugees while in Gaza?
This post was edited on 10/10/23 at 9:34 pm
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 10/10/23 at 9:26 pm to
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It's much more prevalent in Gaza
and where are our issues from this weekend coming from?

Is Israel about to wipe the WB off the map or did i miss that?
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 10/10/23 at 9:26 pm to
Looks like a bunch of major airlines are canceling suspending all flights into Israel
Posted by Burt Orangello
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Member since Sep 2023
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Posted on 10/10/23 at 9:28 pm to
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Did Burt get a “take a long break, thanks….” message?



I keep seeing references to "Burt" and all the problems he's caused/is causing. Is this referring to me?
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 10/10/23 at 9:30 pm to
Not you burt

we're talking about Turd Ferguson
This post was edited on 10/10/23 at 9:30 pm
Posted by TigersnJeeps
FL Panhandle
Member since Jan 2021
2867 posts
Posted on 10/10/23 at 9:30 pm to
That may be well and good but if the "brain-washed" grow up and become terrorists, become the leaders and the Non-brainwashed are unwilling or unable to course correct those in power - they unfortunately will pay.
Posted by Burt Orangello
DFW
Member since Sep 2023
638 posts
Posted on 10/10/23 at 9:31 pm to
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you realize not all Palestinians support Hamas right? Do you support biden?



When I point this out, it's met with downvotes and frothy reactionary drivel. Hilarious considering the level of first hand experience I have IN the country (not just reading about it).
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 10/10/23 at 9:33 pm to
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Hilarious considering the level of first hand experience I have IN the country (not just reading about it).


You've referred to this plenty of times. What is your experience there? Military? Work? Bw/Xe/A?
This post was edited on 10/10/23 at 9:34 pm
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75091 posts
Posted on 10/10/23 at 9:33 pm to
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I keep seeing references to "Burt" and all the problems he's caused/is causing. Is this referring to me?

No, not you.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87313 posts
Posted on 10/10/23 at 9:34 pm to
He carried a gun for a living, Jones

stop asking questions of our new friend

Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
39233 posts
Posted on 10/10/23 at 9:35 pm to
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That part of Egypt isn't about to be a continuous kill zone.

Well you nailed that one fricking nailed it.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 10/10/23 at 9:36 pm to
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What is your experience there? Military? Work? Bw/Xe/A?



Delivering packages for Amazon
Posted by Hateradedrink
Member since May 2023
4156 posts
Posted on 10/10/23 at 9:39 pm to
I’ll be sure to ask Putin to not glass eglin or the Pensacola NAS if there’s a strategic exchange because Florida is a red state and Biden isn’t their president
This post was edited on 10/10/23 at 9:40 pm
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
39233 posts
Posted on 10/10/23 at 9:40 pm to
I think I agree with damn near everything you said but to note:
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but "Gaza/Hamas" does NOT equal all Palestinians.

Well there sure are a lot of non Gaza/Hamas Palestinians cheering them on.
Posted by Burt Orangello
DFW
Member since Sep 2023
638 posts
Posted on 10/10/23 at 9:43 pm to
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and where are our issues from this weekend coming from?

Is Israel about to wipe the WB off the map or did i miss that?


You're reenforcing my point that you have to separate HAMAS in GAZA from "(all) Palestinians."

They are about as similar as a classic liberal and one of these rabid progressive types.

One might vote differently than you, but be a great neighbor...even a friend. The other might be trying to put you in the camps.

Just because they are both on the "left" doesn't make them in any way, shape, or form, the same.
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
150127 posts
Posted on 10/10/23 at 9:46 pm to
Cool. So you agree that Gaza is a terrorist state akin to the ISIS caliphates and that Israel is within its moral right to do whatever it needs to do to secure the everlasting security of its citizens from it?
This post was edited on 10/10/23 at 9:47 pm
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