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re: Is this the greatest fold in Texas Hold’em history?
Posted on 2/16/19 at 10:26 am to PeteRose
Posted on 2/16/19 at 10:26 am to PeteRose
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It’s a flawed strategy because you are devising a plan from just one hand. Why not just accept that she make a good read for this particular situation for what is is because live reads is part of the game and her instinct kicked in this spot.
Have you talked with her about her strategy?
Strategies in poker are a roadmap built to provide you a sound decision making system. You can and should deviate at times.
People who are in the "GTO only" camp are easily exploited because GTO assumes two perfect players. Humans are not capable of playing GTO. It requires a processing power we simply do not have.
Also, current GTO solvers are solving for two players in specific cash game scenarios. We do not have the technology to solve poker tournament dynamics like ICM and field size and strength variables.
Current solvers are a great tool, but the closest we have come to GTO solving was an AI that crushed humans, but even it needed a lot of time to process large datasets away from the table.
The bottom line is seeing one hand from someone and making assumptions of their overall strategy is a bad idea.
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Posted on 2/16/19 at 10:28 am to Buckeye Jeaux
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5 laps is 45 hands - should be able to pin his hole card tendencies pretty damn close - almost exactly.
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Buckeye Jeaux
This is not how datasets work.
Posted on 2/16/19 at 10:46 am to TigerDonk
quote:I've made a nice living from data sets. I know how they work.
This is not how datasets work.
And if you can't get a substantial understanding of what hole cards a player tends to hold or fold after 45 hands, you are welcome at any poker game I host. (Bring 10K+ and we'll send a limo)
This post was edited on 2/16/19 at 10:49 am
Posted on 2/16/19 at 11:08 am to Buckeye Jeaux
In the 2 polarized examples you gave, sure. (Although the one where V folds every hand us not as significant.) Most players aren't on the poles though.
Posted on 2/16/19 at 11:09 am to Buckeye Jeaux
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Buckeye Jeaux
Haven't had a good old fashioned HU4Rolls challenge in a while.
I don't play home games.
If you want to play HU let me know what stakes you are comfortable with and what game.
We can find a venue.
Posted on 2/16/19 at 11:10 am to Pecker
He must have a tell she knows about. Because that’s insane
Posted on 2/16/19 at 11:22 am to EarlyCuyler3
quote:Good. We're getting somewhere. So if a player folds 16 of 18 times that should also tell you he is likely playing top-20 ranked hole cards or better. And if a player only folds 2 of 18 times, then he is playing rags.
In the 2 polarized examples you gave, sure. (Although the one where V folds every hand us not as significant.) Most players aren't on the poles though.
Now could those numbers be outliers? Sure. Possible. But not real likely. And I'll buy those odds until I can see another 18 hands. OBVIOUSLY, the more hands the better. But no way in hell will I ignore the results of 18 straight hands as being indicative of a players hole cards tendencies.
And the bigger problem for most players is that they don't bother to count their opponents folds vs holds AT ALL. They either have a vague notion or no clue at all.
Posted on 2/16/19 at 11:38 am to Pecker
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was done on a read then we need to actively keep Asians out of poker
Asians are tremendous poker and blackjack players.
Never, ever go to a blackjack table with an Asian dealer. You won’t win. Ever.
Posted on 2/16/19 at 11:50 am to deltaland
quote:
Asians are tremendous poker and blackjack players.
Never, ever go to a blackjack table with an Asian dealer. You won’t win. Ever.
Posted on 2/16/19 at 11:50 am to deltaland
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Never, ever go to a blackjack table with an Asian dealer. You won’t win. Ever.
Uhhh...it’s not like a dealer is allowed to split or hit on soft 17 (depending on the venue)... don’t know how the race of the dealer would change the outcomes
Posted on 2/16/19 at 12:29 pm to LSUGent
Posted on 2/16/19 at 1:07 pm to cssamerican
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She obviously put him on pocket aces and was very confident on that read otherwise she wouldn’t have shown the table. If she was just playing tight wouldn’t she have just mucked the hand?
Agree with this.
Posted on 2/16/19 at 1:28 pm to SlowFlowPro
phil ivey 
Posted on 2/16/19 at 1:34 pm to SlowFlowPro
Slow, I don't feel like reading this entire thread, but I saw a part where you were arguing the ability of players b/c this footage is from a 25k buy in ept tourney. Just some extra info: this tourney gave players an option to buy in, but there was also a ton of players that received random free entries from poker stars
I can't remember the exact details, but it was comparable to opening your account, spinning s wheel, and bink- enjoy your 25k tourney
Also, the min-cash was for right around the 25k entry if I remember correctly, so I can imagine a ton of people who received the "golden ticket" to that donkanent were folding some ridiculous hands at the end.
Just Sayin
Eta: I apologize if my statements were previously discussed, but if not, the weird payout structure and massive amount of free-rolls given out to this particular tourney should have changed icm decisions and bubble play quite a bit
I can't remember the exact details, but it was comparable to opening your account, spinning s wheel, and bink- enjoy your 25k tourney
Also, the min-cash was for right around the 25k entry if I remember correctly, so I can imagine a ton of people who received the "golden ticket" to that donkanent were folding some ridiculous hands at the end.
Just Sayin
Eta: I apologize if my statements were previously discussed, but if not, the weird payout structure and massive amount of free-rolls given out to this particular tourney should have changed icm decisions and bubble play quite a bit
This post was edited on 2/16/19 at 1:41 pm
Posted on 2/16/19 at 1:35 pm to LSUGent
Every gambler knows that the secret to survival is knowing what to throw away and knowing what to keep.
Posted on 2/16/19 at 1:47 pm to LSUGent
I have not a damn clue what was said in this thread but I enjoyed reading it. And I will not play poker with any of you
Posted on 2/16/19 at 2:04 pm to chowds4
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chowds4
OH SHT
Posted on 2/16/19 at 2:06 pm to Wolfhound45
chowds just reminded me that we once had a TD multi tournament series to see who was the best poker player
that was around the same time we had a weekly TD pickup basketball game
that was around the same time we had a weekly TD pickup basketball game
Posted on 2/16/19 at 4:08 pm to SlowFlowPro
Private MTT on ACR; set it up.
1k buy-in.
1k buy-in.
Posted on 2/16/19 at 4:45 pm to LSUGent
She didn't have the nuts and him going all in, if she was familiar with playing against him. Maybe she knew there was a good chance he wasn't bluffing.
I honestly don't see the big deal.
I honestly don't see the big deal.
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