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re: Is this the greatest fold in Texas Hold’em history?
Posted on 2/16/19 at 8:29 am to Buckeye Jeaux
Posted on 2/16/19 at 8:29 am to Buckeye Jeaux
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If your EV decisions include a hefty dose of reading the tells and tendencies of your opponents, then I'd agree. But if it nothing more than strictly adhering to pot odds without giving weight to human variables, then I'd strongly disagree.
i love playing against your type
when you make your reads, how many levels deep do you go? you seem like a 3rd or 4th level type of guy
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Posted on 2/16/19 at 8:33 am to SlowFlowPro
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i meant which type of asian
Whichever sits down.
Posted on 2/16/19 at 8:39 am to EarlyCuyler3
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Idk how villain constructs their flop and turn ranges, but I feel like AK is actually a really natural bluff here if it gets to the river like this (obviously we have all combos preflop, and most likely we check at least sometimes with it if we have a checking range on this flop).
Cuz realistically, I think AK loses to the entire value range (which is probably(?) Q+ in this spot). And it has insanely good blockers to calling range. I think most thinking players are only even going to consider a call with boat+ which is weighted towards KQ or AQ. So especially with ICM considerations, we just get to win super often when we check/shove river (and obviously we also win when it check checks on river, so that's nice as well).
this is a good point that i hadn't considered. gives him many more bluffs and makes her fold worse
This post was edited on 2/16/19 at 8:40 am
Posted on 2/16/19 at 8:46 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:First, of course, I'd count your pre-flop and pre-turn folds. A couple times around the table should have your hole card tendencies pegged. At the same time, I would log 5 or 6 of your physical tendencies during your betting and at other critical times. You strike me as a regimental personality. So, I'd ask an attractive woman to seek advice from you on the best poker books to read. I'm guessing there are 2 or 3 you follow to a tee.
when you make your reads, how many levels deep do you go? you seem like a 3rd or 4th level type of guy
And, if after all that, I determined that you could actually be effective at the game, I would avoid getting in hands with you except for an occasional big hand or big bluff (after I determine your preferred folding time - pre-flop, flop, turn, or river)
This post was edited on 2/16/19 at 8:53 am
Posted on 2/16/19 at 8:48 am to SlowFlowPro
I think that's just leveling BS. I just dont see that outside of the high roller online events.
Posted on 2/16/19 at 8:50 am to Buckeye Jeaux
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A couple times around the table should have your hole card tendencies pegged
5 or 6 laps live is next to worthless though.
Posted on 2/16/19 at 8:57 am to EarlyCuyler3
quote:Not at all. At a 9 man table, that's 18 hands (twice around). If he folds 16 times, he's playing top-cards only. If 14 times, still tight, but a little wider range. 12. 10, 8, 6. etc. all tell a story.
5 or 6 laps live is next to worthless though.
5 laps is 45 hands - should be able to pin his hole card tendencies pretty damn close - almost exactly.
This post was edited on 2/16/19 at 9:00 am
Posted on 2/16/19 at 8:59 am to Buckeye Jeaux
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First, of course, I'd count your pre-flop and pre-turn folds. A couple times around the table should have your hole card tendencies pegged. At the same time, I would log 5 or 6 of your physical tendencies during your betting and at other critical times.
you are everything that i'd hoped you'd be
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So, I'd ask an attractive woman to seek advice from you on the best poker books to read. I'm guessing there are 2 or 3 you follow to a tee.
and somehow, so much more
Posted on 2/16/19 at 9:02 am to LSUGent
Witch craft
Posted on 2/16/19 at 9:03 am to tigersownall
Listening to you frickers in this thread is why I don't play much, ruining it with all that thinking and shite.
Posted on 2/16/19 at 9:05 am to Buckeye Jeaux
Nah, that sample size is so small its negligible. Now you can combine that with general age/race tendencies and improve it, but it's just nothing in reality.
Posted on 2/16/19 at 9:08 am to EarlyCuyler3
quote:Hmmm. If he folds 18 of 18? That tells you nothing? If he plays 18 of 18 (a cold chill just ran down his spine)... That tells you nothin? C'mon man
Nah, that sample size is so small its negligible. Now you can combine that with general age/race tendencies and improve it, but it's just nothing in reality.
This post was edited on 2/16/19 at 9:10 am
Posted on 2/16/19 at 9:10 am to EarlyCuyler3
Posted on 2/16/19 at 9:15 am to TigerDonk
quote:Plays a lot of big ones - But agree, likely plays far more cash.
She rarely plays tournaments.
Posted on 2/16/19 at 9:21 am to gthog61
Yep, way to much thinking going on in this thread.
She had an ace and there was an ace on the river.
She folded against the extreme long shot that he had both of the aces left.
She was right, somehow.
She had an ace and there was an ace on the river.
She folded against the extreme long shot that he had both of the aces left.
She was right, somehow.
Posted on 2/16/19 at 9:33 am to Scoop
quote:The other possibility is that they have become allies over the last few years.
She folded against the extreme long shot that he had both of the aces left.
She was right, somehow.
They don't signal or cheat. But they kinda understand that they will play conventionally when they are head-to-head in a tourney. That would explain why he played his out of position aces exactly like out of position aces. Everyone had him on aces, kings, or an idiotic bluff.
And would explain why she showed her cards, and why he then showed his cards.
Posted on 2/16/19 at 9:58 am to SlowFlowPro
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she looks incredibly smart for this hand but she's now shown to be incredibly exploitable over the long haul
I think this statement over generalizes. If someone makes a hero call with Q high and wins, do we make the same statement about being exploited? So we are just going to say “that person calls with Q high so we’re going to value bet with bottom pair or middle pair from now on”.
It’s a flawed strategy because you are devising a plan from just one hand. Why not just accept that she make a good read for this particular situation for what is is because live reads is part of the game and her instinct kicked in this spot.
Posted on 2/16/19 at 10:03 am to Pecker
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If that was done on a read then we need to actively keep Asians out of poker
No Peck - that is exactly the kind of opponent you want to play against. We need more Dumbasses in tournament poker.
Posted on 2/16/19 at 10:08 am to MeridianDog
quote:No! More math nerds (too bad they got rid of pocket protectors and holstered slide rules - those were the best tells ever.
No Peck - that is exactly the kind of opponent you want to play against. We need more Dumbasses in tournament poker.
Posted on 2/16/19 at 10:15 am to gthog61
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Listening to you frickers in this thread is why I don't play much, ruining it with all that thinking and s
Exactly, when would they ever find time to order a beer or a Red Bull?
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