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re: Is there really such a thing as an innocent victim?

Posted on 3/26/19 at 8:21 pm to
Posted by OWLFAN86
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Posted on 3/26/19 at 8:21 pm to
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And for the record, if we drop a bomb on a village to kill a single terrorist leader and kill 100, were any innocent or do you think that they deserve it for being around him?

were they visiting him or was he visiting them?
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 3/26/19 at 8:21 pm to
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And for the record, if we drop a bomb on a village to kill a single terrorist leader and kill 100, were any innocent or do you think that they deserve it for being around him?

There’s something called hostages, you fricking psychopath.
Posted by rantfan
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Posted on 3/26/19 at 8:22 pm to
New Iberia
This post was edited on 3/26/19 at 8:23 pm
Posted by HempHead
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Posted on 3/26/19 at 8:23 pm to
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Okay, show me one police brutality victim that didnt have a record. You may try to hide behind someone shot during a warrant raid at a neighbor's house (wrong house), but Ill look into it.



You are making the claim. You prove to me that you are right.

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And for the record, if we drop a bomb on a village to kill a single terrorist leader and kill 100, were any innocent or do you think that they deserve it for being around him?



More than likely, some are innocent.

I'm really struggling to believe that you think you have a cogent and reasonable point. There is no way you think that there are no adults that bear no blame for their suffering at the hands of a criminal.

What about that autistic kid that got tortured by other youths a few years back? Was he being too spergy and his annoyance justified his agony?
Posted by willymeaux
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Posted on 3/26/19 at 8:24 pm to
Posted by QJenk
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Posted on 3/26/19 at 8:25 pm to
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Like all police brutality "victims" tend to have prior records....right?


Without getting into any specific cases. Are all crimes someone may have committed in the past worthy of the death penalty now? Does due process no longer matter?
Posted by Kujo
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Posted on 3/26/19 at 8:26 pm to
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You are making the claim. You prove to me that you are right.


So I have to post every charge of brutality and debunk each versus you posting one example of something you're so sure I'm wrong about?
Posted by OWLFAN86
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Posted on 3/26/19 at 8:26 pm to
OP is making ( attempting to make) a really stupid version of St Augustines original sin theory


the fault lies not in our stars,but in ourselves


Posted by OWLFAN86
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Posted on 3/26/19 at 8:27 pm to
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So I have to post every charge of brutality and debunk each versus you posting one example of something you're so sure I'm wrong about?
why are you ignoring my posts?



debunk me
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 3/26/19 at 8:27 pm to
And to answer the OP when has there been innocent victims, read about the Eastern Front of WWII and how two completely evil men and their cohorts forced normal decent people to go to their violent horrible deaths by the millions. Read some of their diaries and make up your own mind, you psychopathic a-hole: LINK

This post was edited on 3/26/19 at 8:28 pm
Posted by HempHead
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Posted on 3/26/19 at 8:28 pm to
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So I have to post every charge of brutality and debunk each versus you posting one example of something you're so sure I'm wrong about?



If you are claiming that every instance validates your assertion, you absolutely do.

If you think that not every instance supports your assertion, then you have contradicted yourself.
This post was edited on 3/26/19 at 8:30 pm
Posted by dcrews
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Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 3/26/19 at 8:28 pm to
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1. Get abused by SO, well you picked that SO.


What
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3. Get hit by DUI, why were you driving at 3am?


The
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4. Get your car keyed, unless the person who keyed it does it all day, everyday, you did something to set the wrong person off.


frick
Posted by OWLFAN86
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Posted on 3/26/19 at 8:29 pm to
those Russians were guilty of not overthrowing Stalin and making peace with Hitler
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 3/26/19 at 8:30 pm to
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those Russians were guilty of not overthrowing Stalin and making peace with Hitler


People can act like badasses here, but it took a special type of person to frick with Hitler or Stalin. Stalin threw his own son in law in a death camp, and Hitler would have certainly done the same.
Posted by Vidic
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Posted on 3/26/19 at 8:30 pm to
Good thread oweo
Posted by Kujo
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Posted on 3/26/19 at 8:31 pm to
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Does due process no longer matter?


How long has it mattered, a couple hundred years over the last ~8k years of social development?

I said before, the punishment may not fit the crime, but they weren't innocent. A guy spits in your face, do they deserve an arse beating within an inch of their life or just a simple assault charge with due process that they can expunge with pretrial intervention?



Posted by OWLFAN86
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Posted on 3/26/19 at 8:32 pm to
I was being sarcastic


im the one toasting this clown in this thray
Posted by HempHead
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Posted on 3/26/19 at 8:33 pm to
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I said before, the punishment may not fit the crime, but they weren't innocent.


So you are asserting that the only claim to innocence is blamelessness for any wrongdoing throughout life?
Posted by boosiebadazz
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Posted on 3/26/19 at 8:33 pm to
every time I think this place can’t get dumber and more entertaining it finds a way to do both
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 3/26/19 at 8:34 pm to
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How long has it mattered, a couple hundred years over the last ~8k years of social development?


Tell that to the life expectancy doubling in a few decades.

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I said before, the punishment may not fit the crime, but they weren't innocent. A guy spits in your face, do they deserve an arse beating within an inch of their life or just a simple assault charge with due process that they can expunge with pretrial intervention?


1) I would have no problem spitting in an evil twat’s face like yourself.
2) You’re simply a count.
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