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re: Is there any hope for New Orleans?
Posted on 8/10/17 at 5:41 pm to TigerBR1111
Posted on 8/10/17 at 5:41 pm to TigerBR1111
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City is so dysfunctional it's pathetic.
Years and years of democratic leadership produce these same results 100 times out of 100 yet nothing ever changes.
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Posted on 8/10/17 at 5:51 pm to TigerBR1111
There are still a lot of bright young people coming to this city.
We are starting to develop a bit of a medical sector.
While still not great... the public schools are starting to turn it around - for those families that actually care about education.
Small business creation is very strong, and we are starting to attract outside money.
The problem is there are a bunch of 50 and 60 year olds that are deeply embedded in corruption. For as long as I've been alive... the S&WB has been corrupt and incompetent. No one cared.
No one running for election this fall is inspiring any confidence. That's disturbing.
I keep thinking, at some point, people are going to be "mad as hell and not gonna take it anymore." Watching meek and mild Jason Williams go HAM on Tuesday was interesting. There needs to be a lot more of this.
But this has been a frustrating week. I live in a suburb. But I work in the city. And this is a fine reminder that all of us suburbanites think we are protected... but all our livelihoods are dependent upon the city. If the city crashes, we all are going down with it.
We are starting to develop a bit of a medical sector.
While still not great... the public schools are starting to turn it around - for those families that actually care about education.
Small business creation is very strong, and we are starting to attract outside money.
The problem is there are a bunch of 50 and 60 year olds that are deeply embedded in corruption. For as long as I've been alive... the S&WB has been corrupt and incompetent. No one cared.
No one running for election this fall is inspiring any confidence. That's disturbing.
I keep thinking, at some point, people are going to be "mad as hell and not gonna take it anymore." Watching meek and mild Jason Williams go HAM on Tuesday was interesting. There needs to be a lot more of this.
But this has been a frustrating week. I live in a suburb. But I work in the city. And this is a fine reminder that all of us suburbanites think we are protected... but all our livelihoods are dependent upon the city. If the city crashes, we all are going down with it.
This post was edited on 8/10/17 at 5:53 pm
Posted on 8/10/17 at 6:09 pm to fightin tigers
quote:
You described a lot of shitty cities
Fify
Posted on 8/10/17 at 6:24 pm to TigerBR1111
The needed miracle would be education. Open peoples' eyes to the potential. And to their potential. But it won't happen, and without a education, the things that need to be done to the mouth of the Delta won't be done.
There's something else. We only lived there ten years. It was enough. More than enough. We made good friends there and there were businesses I ordered from even when we were up here. MOst of them are now gone (One remains and I still send people to them.) But our friends. Some older than us some younger than us. Now mostly deceased, including most of the younger than us.
We were at a meeting last week and one guy came in late because he'd been fabricating a particular part of a wheel support on a century old car he was rebuilding. And all I could say to my husband was Damn it, I wish M... had moved up here near us, he would have loved these guys and their creativity (and he would have done that a couple of hours faster). But M is dead. He first left Orleans Parish and took his business to the West Bank and his stress level dropped. But I don't think it dropped enough.
There's something else. We only lived there ten years. It was enough. More than enough. We made good friends there and there were businesses I ordered from even when we were up here. MOst of them are now gone (One remains and I still send people to them.) But our friends. Some older than us some younger than us. Now mostly deceased, including most of the younger than us.
We were at a meeting last week and one guy came in late because he'd been fabricating a particular part of a wheel support on a century old car he was rebuilding. And all I could say to my husband was Damn it, I wish M... had moved up here near us, he would have loved these guys and their creativity (and he would have done that a couple of hours faster). But M is dead. He first left Orleans Parish and took his business to the West Bank and his stress level dropped. But I don't think it dropped enough.
Posted on 8/10/17 at 6:31 pm to TigerBR1111
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Driving businesses and decent citizens away in hordes.
Corrupt politicians and police force for decades.
Posted on 8/10/17 at 6:38 pm to TigerBR1111
The city is going to slowly push out its tax base at this rate, and then there is no hope of it ever getting better than it is now. You're gonna have a city full of non-contributers, young professionals not making crazy income, and a small population of loaded old money.
Everyone else will be laughing over the fence from Jefferson parish.
I'm 30 and all my peers are in 1st home purchase mode (I own a house in metairie), and everyone says the same thing, don't buy in orleans. I know people who have lived in orleans their whole life, but when it comes to putting their savings into an asset, they are buying in Jefferson parish and their parents who still live in orleans are supporting and pushing that direction as well. It's got to be an indicator of a greater shift.
Everyone else will be laughing over the fence from Jefferson parish.
I'm 30 and all my peers are in 1st home purchase mode (I own a house in metairie), and everyone says the same thing, don't buy in orleans. I know people who have lived in orleans their whole life, but when it comes to putting their savings into an asset, they are buying in Jefferson parish and their parents who still live in orleans are supporting and pushing that direction as well. It's got to be an indicator of a greater shift.
This post was edited on 8/10/17 at 6:42 pm
Posted on 8/10/17 at 6:39 pm to fightin tigers
quote:
You described a lot of Democrat-run cities
Posted on 8/10/17 at 6:42 pm to PsychTiger
All I will say is that my wife and I had a trip planned to New Orleans about 2 months ago that we cancelled.
And we aren't pussies. We walk in downtown Los Angeles quite often when going to bars there and Cabo but we cancelled the New Orleans trip.
And we aren't pussies. We walk in downtown Los Angeles quite often when going to bars there and Cabo but we cancelled the New Orleans trip.
Posted on 8/10/17 at 6:42 pm to real turf fan
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The needed miracle would be education
Education can not do much for people with an IQ below 80, and they are quite numerous in Southern Louisiana.
Posted on 8/10/17 at 6:43 pm to El Segundo Guy
While the crime is an issue for tourism, I don't feel like the residents here really factor that in too much. It's more about the infrastructure and blind politicians pushing them to jp. At least that is my view from my perspective, and the people I know.
This post was edited on 8/10/17 at 6:47 pm
Posted on 8/10/17 at 6:46 pm to TigerBR1111
Not on their current path.
Posted on 8/10/17 at 6:54 pm to TigerBR1111
It probably should have been abandoned after Katrina...let nature take it back.
Posted on 8/10/17 at 6:54 pm to Pendulum
I hear you. But from an outsider's perspective, New Orleans relies on tourists and my wife and I plan drop at least a grand a day just on hotels, food and drinks.
If it doesn't get better for tourists, that's a lot of lost revenue.
If it doesn't get better for tourists, that's a lot of lost revenue.
Posted on 8/10/17 at 6:57 pm to TigerBR1111
Yes, but she's not gonna use her meat curtains to stop the flooding for free.
Posted on 8/10/17 at 6:57 pm to TigerBR1111
Probably not. Inmates run the asylum.
Posted on 8/10/17 at 7:03 pm to Btrtigerfan
shite stats from Latter & Blum. Don't trust anything that company puts out at all. Having said that downturn is very real.
This post was edited on 8/10/17 at 7:05 pm
Posted on 8/10/17 at 7:11 pm to kywildcatfanone
More overarching conservative policies -> less government intervention. There is no return on increased tax rates, slacking police initiatives, corruption, big, stagnant education programs.
Posted on 8/10/17 at 7:29 pm to TigerBR1111
In a word, NO.
Posted on 8/10/17 at 7:41 pm to TigerBR1111
No. Next question.
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