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re: Is the idea of eternal life appealing to you?
Posted on 6/28/17 at 9:35 am to i am dan
Posted on 6/28/17 at 9:35 am to i am dan
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I don't think it's a choice. How do I "trick" my brain into believing something it doesn't
Everything is a choice. You choose to believe it's a trick. I choose treat.
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Posted on 6/28/17 at 9:35 am to i am dan
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Big difference between 44 years and 239861023965102934861029560129386401926350912650912865091238650126304971230965120934610801823601293586102364109238071529364510923560192586109236401923650192863501275304129736401926340125609126501925340127635091826509126531572130561092634 years.
I get that. I'm just wondering at which year do you think it would get boring.
I have a harder time conceiving of that (a day when I'm just completely bored of everything to do with my existence), than I do hoping for eternal life. But, I really dig life.
Posted on 6/28/17 at 9:36 am to jrodLSUke
How's the traffic around Heaven's Tiger Stadium? This sounds more like hell to me if conditions are similar to those on Earth. Please advise.
Posted on 6/28/17 at 9:36 am to BestBanker
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And this is why you root for Auburn because you think they will win. Not fact. Fact is LSU will win and we can't get you to change. Stubborn.
I don't always think we can win, but I always want us to win.
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When you think about Death do you lose your breath or do you keep your cool? This is the question.
Depends on my mood I guess. I don't like the idea of leaving my wife and son behind. That's what bothers me about death.
The idea of not existing after death doesn't bother me that much, I don't think. The idea of eternity in hell certainly isn't warm and fuzzy though.
Posted on 6/28/17 at 9:36 am to i am dan
It's hard to know what truly happens when your soul returns to Cthulhu and the dark lord reclaims what is rightfully his. All we really know for sure is that it will involve madness for all of time if time truly exists in his realm. But it's fun to think about/dwell upon.
Posted on 6/28/17 at 9:36 am to i am dan
How about pray and see if you get an answer.
Posted on 6/28/17 at 9:39 am to i am dan
I myself found myself in a similar situation in my early 20's, was raised Baptist. But when my worldview was forever altered in college when I learned engineering and ultimately took quantum mechanics, it has kind of settled into limbo between religious and agnostic. If there is a God, and he is omnipresent and all-knowing, wouldn't he be understanding for the stance I took because I have an inquisitive mind and I base my reality around what I am able to learn?
About the whole eternal thing, that thought bothers me more than anything, because our very existence relies on a relative timeframe. At best, I can only think that this eternity can't be thought of as an endless linear process, but a process that is connected to all time simultaneously. Also, as nice as life can be when things are in your control and going your way, you simply cannot be truly satisfied without some form of strife. If only to remind us that we need a few cloudy days to appreciate the sunny days, an endless cycle of sunny days loses it baseline, so how can that be satisfying?
I also know that our minds have the ability to alter our perception to the passing of time. I've had a concussion where I can't account for two hours of my life then but others can account for me being there physically. I've also woken up from a dream with the feeling that I had just endured a year's time in my dream. I can't really know if it was just a dream about the concept of time altering or if my mind somehow entered into this deep cusp of subconscious thought. Also, I've heard that as we are dying, our minds do everything to savor one last moment, so perhaps when someone truly dies they simply never realize it's over because their mind is capable of stretching out the perception of time exponetially, but never quite reaching that asymptote of infinite time.
I probably ponder over these exisitial topics more than any over thought, easily.
About the whole eternal thing, that thought bothers me more than anything, because our very existence relies on a relative timeframe. At best, I can only think that this eternity can't be thought of as an endless linear process, but a process that is connected to all time simultaneously. Also, as nice as life can be when things are in your control and going your way, you simply cannot be truly satisfied without some form of strife. If only to remind us that we need a few cloudy days to appreciate the sunny days, an endless cycle of sunny days loses it baseline, so how can that be satisfying?
I also know that our minds have the ability to alter our perception to the passing of time. I've had a concussion where I can't account for two hours of my life then but others can account for me being there physically. I've also woken up from a dream with the feeling that I had just endured a year's time in my dream. I can't really know if it was just a dream about the concept of time altering or if my mind somehow entered into this deep cusp of subconscious thought. Also, I've heard that as we are dying, our minds do everything to savor one last moment, so perhaps when someone truly dies they simply never realize it's over because their mind is capable of stretching out the perception of time exponetially, but never quite reaching that asymptote of infinite time.
I probably ponder over these exisitial topics more than any over thought, easily.
This post was edited on 6/28/17 at 9:41 am
Posted on 6/28/17 at 9:42 am to GetEmTigers08
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I myself found myself in a similar situation in my e
Like to talk about yourself a bit, huh?
Posted on 6/28/17 at 9:47 am to AUCE05
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1 of 2 things will 100% happen. You will either meet a supreme being that created everything, or your energy and matter will be transformed into something else. Maybe a new planet.
WUT?
100%??? you crazy
Posted on 6/28/17 at 9:50 am to LucasP
I would worry if someone didn't have a plethora of opinion on such matters, honestly.
This post was edited on 6/28/17 at 9:54 am
Posted on 6/28/17 at 9:52 am to LucasP
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Like to talk about yourself a bit, huh?
Kind of hard to be completely objective when dealing with existitial topics that we, as a human, can only experience subjectively.
Posted on 6/28/17 at 9:54 am to i am dan
It makes me physically sick to my stomach thinking about eternity.
That being said, I would love eternal life on earth as long as when I did die/choose to die it was as you said, just nothingness
That being said, I would love eternal life on earth as long as when I did die/choose to die it was as you said, just nothingness
This post was edited on 6/28/17 at 9:55 am
Posted on 6/28/17 at 9:54 am to Champagne
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When you think about Death do you lose your breath or do you keep your cool?
I lose my cool thinking about the possibility of my kids dying more than I do of myself. But I can't lie that I think about my life and my future death from time to time. I am 42yrs old and half of my life is gone. Its just a memory. I would like to think that the afterlife is this never ending opportunity to experience your happiest moments in life. Basically getting to relive any moment in life that gave you joy or happiness. But sadly I think when you die, it's likely just like when you are sleeping. You don't experience anything, no dream, no flashes of whatever. The average person sleeps 8hrs a night, and only a very small fraction of that is in a dream state.
Posted on 6/28/17 at 10:01 am to i am dan
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My wife and I were talking about this the other day. I would rather not exist after death, similar to before birth I guess, than be around for quadrillions of trillions of gazillions of years. The only idea that I could come up that I would support eternal life is that when we die, our concept of time changes or goes away.
What is time? Time is not constant, correct? An example is if you're in a spaceship nearing a black hole in deep space, time slows down. So perhaps time is something of this universe, and when you die, if you still are somehow conscious (maybe we have subtle "astral bodies", who knows), there's no more time as we know it. No mass, matter, or time. Only consciousness.
Posted on 6/28/17 at 10:01 am to i am dan
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would rather not exist after death, similar to before birth I guess
Just because you do not have any recollection of an existence before this birth doesn't mean there was nothing.
I'm quite certain that you will have no recollection of this existence in your next rebirth.
Posted on 6/28/17 at 10:02 am to i am dan
No
Posted on 6/28/17 at 10:04 am to GetEmTigers08
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existitial
You keep using this like it's a word. Surely someone with your engineering and quantum physics background would understand how to Google.
Posted on 6/28/17 at 10:08 am to i am dan
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Is the idea of eternal life appealing to you?
As I do not think "eternal" is achievable as it seems as though the universe will eventually fade into absolute nothing do to heat death, I'm not interested in eternal.
Much MUUUUUUUCH longer? Sure...but as me. Not a clone of me or a replicant of me because it really would not be me. But this me, continuing indefinitely until I'm simply bored with it all?
Yep...sure. I like existing, so all things being equal I'd like to re-up for that.
Posted on 6/28/17 at 10:11 am to GeauxTigerTM
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Sure...but as me. Not a clone of me or a replicant of me because it really would not be me.
So what differentiates you from a clone or a replicant? Physical body? Belief system? Past experiences?
Posted on 6/28/17 at 10:13 am to cyogi
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So perhaps time is something of this universe, and when you die, if you still are somehow conscious (maybe we have subtle "astral bodies", who knows), there's no more time as we know it. No mass, matter, or time. Only consciousness.
Can I take a hit?
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