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re: Is the "Give a man a fish..." proverb anti-Christian?
Posted on 3/2/20 at 4:18 pm to magildachunks
Posted on 3/2/20 at 4:18 pm to magildachunks
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Posted on 3/2/20 at 4:19 pm to magildachunks
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After all, one of Jesus' most celebrated miracles is providing free food to the masses. He gave them fish.
And, did he not provide free health care to the blind man?
And the lepers?
How do conservative Christians justify these obvious conflicting beliefs between their political views and their religious beliefs?
A government taking my labor by force and giving it to someone who chooses not to labor is vastly different than my own personal decision to share my labor with someone.
This post was edited on 3/2/20 at 4:20 pm
Posted on 3/2/20 at 4:23 pm to magildachunks
This is a stupid thread. Jesus was not the government. Performing charitable acts, or encouraging others to do so, has nothing to do with acts forced by the government.
Posted on 3/2/20 at 4:27 pm to magildachunks
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How do conservative Christians justify these obvious conflicting beliefs between their political views and their religious beliefs?
No justification necessary. The beliefs do not conflict. if every person gave as freely as Christians give to their fellow man, much of the world's problems go away.
Capitalism works on a voluntary exchange. All competing systems first take from someone, to then give to someone else.
Posted on 3/2/20 at 4:28 pm to magildachunks
You mean we should ignore “For even when we were with you, we would give you this command: If anyone is not willing to work, let him not eat. For we hear that some among you walk in idleness, not busy at work, but busybodies. Now such persons we command and encourage in the Lord Jesus Christ to do their work quietly and to earn their own living.”
Who at that time had no other options.
Proverbs is full of advice to work and work hard - Proverbs 24:30-34 “I passed by the field of a sluggard, by the vineyard of a man lacking sense, and behold, it was all overgrown with thorns; the ground was covered with nettles, and its stone wall was broken down. Then I saw and considered it; I looked and received instruction. A little sleep, a little slumber, a little folding of the hands to rest, and poverty will come upon you like a robber, and want like an armed man.”
So in short, God likes those who work and finds those who refuse to work off putting.
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one of Jesus' most celebrated miracles is providing free food to the masses
Who at that time had no other options.
Proverbs is full of advice to work and work hard - Proverbs 24:30-34 “I passed by the field of a sluggard, by the vineyard of a man lacking sense, and behold, it was all overgrown with thorns; the ground was covered with nettles, and its stone wall was broken down. Then I saw and considered it; I looked and received instruction. A little sleep, a little slumber, a little folding of the hands to rest, and poverty will come upon you like a robber, and want like an armed man.”
So in short, God likes those who work and finds those who refuse to work off putting.
Posted on 3/2/20 at 4:32 pm to magildachunks
Was Jesus feeding lazy pieces of shite who refused to work and earn their way? Did they expect the world to just cater to them?
This thread is dumb
This thread is dumb
Posted on 3/2/20 at 4:32 pm to auggie
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You Know, yall retards are the first ones that the commies kill?
Actually it’s usually the Jews
Posted on 3/2/20 at 4:38 pm to magildachunks
That is a Chinese proverb. It isn’t in the Bible.
The proverb is saying one is better than the other, not that one (giving fish) is necessarily bad.
So no; the proverb isn’t anti-Christian.
The proverb is saying one is better than the other, not that one (giving fish) is necessarily bad.
So no; the proverb isn’t anti-Christian.
Posted on 3/2/20 at 4:43 pm to kingbob
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A man can not believe in divorce all he wants, but if his spouse wants a divorce, he’s getting a divorce. There’s nothing he can do to stop it
Are you sure about this? I thought he could still Stone her...I may be wrong.
Posted on 3/2/20 at 4:47 pm to fr33manator
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Actually it’s usually the Jews
Nah, The Jews just make sure that you hear about them first.
Posted on 3/2/20 at 4:48 pm to OweO
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And he provided wine.. I thought certain Christian groups don't believe in drinking?
Think of the water purification and filtration capability in that timeframe, then tell me whether or not it was better to drink water or wine.
Posted on 3/2/20 at 4:50 pm to Geauxboy
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Say's not to get drunk.
What's the point of drinking?
Posted on 3/2/20 at 4:52 pm to Olric
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I have no problem giving my neighbor in need food, clothing, or shelter; I have a problem when my government forces me to
How do you feel about the government forcing other religious beliefs on people? (School prayer, religious education, beliefs dictating who can marry who, etc)
Posted on 3/2/20 at 4:53 pm to magildachunks
Stfu
Posted on 3/2/20 at 4:59 pm to magildachunks
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And, did he not provide free health care to the blind man?
And the lepers?
How do conservative Christians justify these obvious conflicting beliefs between their political views and their religious beliefs?
Jesus was the government?
This thread is dumb as shite.
Posted on 3/2/20 at 5:00 pm to OweO
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What's the point of drinking?
My liver gets lazy. It's for exercise, you stupid frick.
Posted on 3/2/20 at 5:10 pm to magildachunks
You need to go to church.
Because God is everywhere
but he wants you over here.
He's mad
and he wants your money.
Because God is everywhere
but he wants you over here.
He's mad
and he wants your money.
Posted on 3/2/20 at 5:20 pm to magildachunks
quote:it’s not like he made himself a millionaire doing great works the least of our brothers. Quite the opposite.
providing free food to the masses. He gave them fish.
Posted on 3/2/20 at 5:32 pm to magildachunks
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Is the "Give a man a fish..." proverb anti-Christian?
The proverb doesn’t say to let people starve.
It says it is far more efficient and greater to teach a man to do something than to simply hand him something he didn’t earn.
It’s a principle that should be practiced and understood by all.
Jesus’s kingdom is not of this world. Nor is it bound by anyone one man made institution or organization. And those who truly love, follow, and believe in him know that this world came from ashes and to ashes it shall return.
I understand the ease of atheism and the draw of materialism and spiritual rebellion, but I urge you to approach the Lord with an open heart and an open mind. Earnestly try one day to simply pray with an open mind. If you reach out to the lord he will comfort you.
Posted on 3/2/20 at 5:33 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
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Think of the water purification and filtration capability in that timeframe, then tell me whether or not it was better to drink water or wine.
You trying to say Jesus Christ cant purify water?
Must be like hitting a curveball.
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