re: Is The Economy really bad?

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older people who never once realized how goddam easy they had it

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I’m 63. When I was 29 I had four kids under five and a stay at home wife. I was paid about $40,000. I had a house that I bought for $65k and put $20k more into it. When I bought it the house was about 60% complete. I did the shoring (foundation was bad), plumbing, electrical, alarm system, painting, cabinets, and miscellaneous other stuff myself when I was 25 and expecting our first child.

We probably ate out once per month as a couple and never as a family, besides my wife getting them fast food rarely. My wife and I didn’t go to the movies or go on a vacation for 10 years until we were about 35. Every two weeks I was paid, and my wife paid all the bills and gave me about $30 for fuel and so I could go get po-boys with coworkers every Friday. She would buy groceries for the next two weeks and maybe have $50 left for contingencies.

Gradually, I was able to increase earnings in my late 30’s and pull away from the bills. You said “older people who never once realized how goddam easy they had it“. Well, I considered all of that easy. Why don’t you?

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I had a house that I bought for $65k and put $20k more into it

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That does sound easy

That’s about a 210K house today

What’s it worth now?

Everything in Crisco

I never said it was healthy, but man that woman could cook.

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Everything in Crisco

I never said it was healthy, but man that woman could cook.

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From a health POV, I have lived long enough for every basic foodstuff to go through cycles of being good and bad for you so I just try to eat in moderation.

As for Crisco, I got to a point in life where the idea of shortening being used for anything in cooking beyond seasoning cast iron sounded disgusting. That is odd because all the older women in my family often used it as a principal ingredient and their food was mouth-wateringly good. I still can get over the idea of them digging it out of a #10 can with their hands and mixing huge globs of it into something or cooking something in it.

The funny thing is that my paw paw ate her food most of his life and lived to be almost 100. Bacon, eggs etc for breakfast every single morning. He did work outside a lot and never was fat.

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I think Trumps policies will start to really work

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I have lived long enough for every basic foodstuff to go through cycles of being good and bad for you

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Not to derail the thread, but this perception is intentional. It has little to do with a monolithic nutrition community being indecisive. It's simply obfuscation caused by industry-funded studies, commissioned explicitly to discredit independent, peer-reviewed research; with the extremely effective end-goal of making the average consumer think, "They can't even make up their minds, so I might as well eat what I want."

I work down in the CBD in Nola and try to get a walk in most days at lunch. I walk the same route which takes me past a few restaurants normally frequented by lots of tourists. I’ve noticed the last several times I’ve walked by these places that are normally packed, are practically empty.

Could be the heat keeping folks away but there is a noticeable lack of folks where normally there are plenty.

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. I had a house that I bought for $65k

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I was paid about $40,000.

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Well, I considered all of that easy.

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Okay, cool.

Your self awareness is admirable but far from common

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Damn, I was just asking a question

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Well, my bad if so.

I'll be honest, I had a little trouble deciphering your point so I just went with what I thought was most likely. That could be on me as well.