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re: Is the earth flat?

Posted on 4/11/22 at 9:22 am to
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
20518 posts
Posted on 4/11/22 at 9:22 am to
quote:

Von Braun headed NASA's new "space"-rocket program. (Nice transition from NAZI----> NASA)

Thomas Keith Glennan was the first head of NASA.
Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
32980 posts
Posted on 4/11/22 at 9:25 am to
Those planes must have had a huge fuel tank if they were able to verify the entire continent is one piece and then return to new Zealand.

They flew around the entire perimeter of the dome!
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
127780 posts
Posted on 4/11/22 at 9:28 am to
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Its referencing an ice dome




Oh man that is great.
Posted by Liberator
Revelation 20:10-12
Member since Jul 2020
9071 posts
Posted on 4/11/22 at 9:31 am to
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This is obviously a troll...


*eyeball roll*

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You make basic assumptions to derive physics equations to describe the world around us.



Uh, no. OTHER qualified people, researchers AND scientists have challenged the BS "physics" and narrative, and found many inconsistencies -- like UNPROVEN and NEVER-PROVEN "facts" and "The Science", assertions and actual pseudo-science.

I realize Institutions have hard-wired much "knowledge" with *think* is factual, but would you rather we not challenge anything anymore? Why just keep on believing "The Science" and unchecked "Truth" and "Facts"? How this works: All of it become assumptions shoved down the line from one generation to the next...until NO ONE VALIDATES TRUTH ANYMORE.

quote:

You can assume a flat non-rotating surface when you are calculating the rocket equation because you have to assign thrust and gravity vectors.


Several government agencies concede "flat non-rotating earth" as a REQUISITE ASSUMPTION DURING ALL FLIGHT.

(check back -- I'll be posting sources)




Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
70941 posts
Posted on 4/11/22 at 9:33 am to
Of course it is Lucy. Why else do people never come back after they leave town?
This post was edited on 4/11/22 at 9:34 am
Posted by cable
Member since Oct 2018
9735 posts
Posted on 4/11/22 at 9:34 am to
I just had breakfast with Elvis l, Jim Morrison and Tupac - it was pretty cool- you want to join us next week when we do it again?
Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
32980 posts
Posted on 4/11/22 at 9:34 am to
Why does it take 6:10 to fly NYC to LA, but only 5:25 to fly LA to NYC?
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
127780 posts
Posted on 4/11/22 at 9:34 am to
quote:

Several government agencies concede "flat non-rotating earth" as a REQUISITE ASSUMPTION DURING ALL FLIGHT.



Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
37687 posts
Posted on 4/11/22 at 9:38 am to
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like UNPROVEN and NEVER-PROVEN "facts" and "The Science", assertions and actual pseudo-science.


Like how tf did people move BRICKS OVER WATER just 200 years ago. Don’t you idiots know that the ancient star peoples had a hyper technologically advanced civilization in lower Louisiana that built massive brick structures a thousand years ago…. WITH. THEIR. MINDS?!
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
127780 posts
Posted on 4/11/22 at 9:39 am to
That was one of my favorite things ever. Not just some bricks though, a lot of bricks. OVER WATER.

They clearly couldn't do that 200 years ago, except for all of the numerous times they have done something like it for hundreds of years.
This post was edited on 4/11/22 at 9:40 am
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
37687 posts
Posted on 4/11/22 at 9:42 am to
And, not to mention, these so called smarty pants “star” peoples couldn’t even build their “star fort” in the shape of a frickin star. Instead they built it using standardized polygonal fort design and building techniques that had been put into use following the use of rifled and larger bored artillery pieces in the late 1700s - late 1800s.
This post was edited on 4/11/22 at 9:43 am
Posted by Liberator
Revelation 20:10-12
Member since Jul 2020
9071 posts
Posted on 4/11/22 at 9:44 am to

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I have taken into account my ammo, wind, spindrift, temperature, humidity, mirage, cosine angle, and air pressure something odd is still missing....

If I am shooting due north or south my group will be right of the aim point. If I am shooting due east my group will be high of the aim point. If I am shooting due west my group will be low of my aim point. Note this shift is roughly 4x my group size (on a good day). How does your flat Earth model explain this?


Great question. Thank you for the courtesy.

A very good friend of mine (Army Captain, Artillery) and I had this same convo about Coriolis Effect adjustments. He was a skeptic -- understandable; you guys follow the manual and advice of your peers.

(1000m? whoa.) Tough question -- you covered all the routine factors -- then above and beyond. I don't have a clear answer for that East-West anomaly other than possible magnetic interference. (Might you be over-adjusting subconsciously for some unknown reason?)

The new earth model physics does discount "Gravity", explained by Mass + Density.

I'll reach back out with FE Coriolis Affect info / vid -- might be something there.





Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
37687 posts
Posted on 4/11/22 at 9:45 am to
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I don't have a clear answer for that East-West anomaly other than possible magnetic interference. (Might you be over-adjusting subconsciously for some unknown reason?)


Posted by Liberator
Revelation 20:10-12
Member since Jul 2020
9071 posts
Posted on 4/11/22 at 9:47 am to
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Seems like it’d be fairly easy for some of you crazy flat earthers to simply try to fly a plane to the edge of the world. Yet, none of you have. Weird.


Love to. Hundreds of thousands -- if not millions would sign up to do just that.

Problem:

Are you not familiar with the crazy Antarctica Treaty??

NO ONE CAN ENTER BEYOND LATITUDE 60 DEGREES SOUTH.
Posted by Turf Taint
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2021
6010 posts
Posted on 4/11/22 at 9:48 am to
To all flat-Earthers…

On June 21 and Dec 21, ask residents of:

Melbourne, Australian
Buenes Aires, Argentina

And

London, England
Singapore City

What is your air temperature and length of day?

Recommend medicinal marijuana and Pink Floyd music as you ponder their differences in response.

Next time, pay attention on school and church.






Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
47827 posts
Posted on 4/11/22 at 9:48 am to
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There's quite literally hundreds of "lies" in the Bible. Although I'm sure he is using the term "lie" as a very subjective term.



I mean, I'm not sure why this thread of conversation was ever entertained. The subjects of theology and interpretation of the Bible don't lend themselves well to claims of lying. Many people interpret large swaths of the Bible as allegorical, for example.

Anyway, my point is the theological discussion is a distraction. I think it is perfectly fine to focus this conversation on the fact that we have several observations that require no prerequisite knowledge of any kind outside of some rudimentary spatial awareness that demonstrate the flat earth models are not consistent with our everyday life

- you see different stars on the northern hemisphere vs the southern hemisphere, this would not happen on a flat earth

- you see the same face of the moon everywhere on the globe due to tidal locking, this would not make sense if we were all staring up at the moon on a flat plane

- the southern hemisphere is absurdly stretched on the flat earth map and it makes all travel that occurs in the southern hemisphere and the paths taken by vehicles like planes and boats make absolutely no sense because they are taking the longest possible path between two destinations in the flat earth model

obviously there are plenty of others, but I think these are some fairly fundamental observations that require minimal scientific knowledge to address. I think I'd like to see what the flat earth contingent has to say on this matter, or at least how they'd make a model that accounts for these observations. Then we can move on to other phenomena like day/night; how seasons work; and so on.
This post was edited on 4/11/22 at 9:50 am
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
37687 posts
Posted on 4/11/22 at 9:49 am to
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NO ONE CAN ENTER BEYOND LATITUDE 60 DEGREES SOUTH.


If Antarctica is a ring around everything, why would you only need to go south? Why couldn’t you reach it by just going east or west? Seems to me you should be able to “fly around the equator” and still find your Antarctica. No need to head south at all baw.
This post was edited on 4/11/22 at 9:50 am
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29044 posts
Posted on 4/11/22 at 9:49 am to
Liberator you never answered this question:
quote:

Why is a flight from Sydney to Johannesburg about the same time and distance as a flight from Sydney to Los Angeles?
Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
32980 posts
Posted on 4/11/22 at 9:50 am to
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NO ONE CAN ENTER BEYOND LATITUDE 60 DEGREES SOUTH

Well that's certainly not true.

70 people have walked across Antarctica just for fun.

Of course you won't believe that, because you didn't see it. Tell me more about Genesis and miscontextualizes paragraphs from a 1958 encyclopedia...
Posted by Liberator
Revelation 20:10-12
Member since Jul 2020
9071 posts
Posted on 4/11/22 at 9:51 am to
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“Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them;”

Matthew 4:8 King James Version (KJV)


How is that possible on a globe?


Exactly.

But because a bunch of Atheists and anti-Bible pagans infest this thread, expect an answer like...."But...but...That's stupid. Jesus Christ' s eyeballs can't see THAT far!!"
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