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re: Is PB&J not allowed in school anymore?

Posted on 5/28/24 at 9:23 am to
Posted by OvertheDwayneBowe
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 5/28/24 at 9:23 am to
The OT, where "abortion is absolutely wrong in all situations" and "frick them kids with allergies" can coexist with absolutely zero irony.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
58442 posts
Posted on 5/28/24 at 9:27 am to
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The school is simply trying to function and get kids to the next grade. That’s it. They’re not trying to die on hills one way or another.


The mistake they're making on the trans issue is believing they aren't "dying on a hill" because they're taking the side of depravity. This trans thing may very well be the death of public schools. No one wants their little girl to be forced into a bathroom with an insane boy who thinks he's a girl.
Posted by Deuces
The bottom
Member since Nov 2011
15113 posts
Posted on 5/28/24 at 9:27 am to
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While the two things you’re contrasting (prohibiting PB&J and allowing mentally ill people to pretend to be the opposite sex) are obviously different, the decision making at a high level is happening for the same reason; the school doesn’t want a fight.


I’m not trying to argue with this, I’m truly curious about the progression of a child that does have such a serious allergy.

When they enter the work place one day, unless they work remotely, will everyone at that work place have to eliminate all peanut products there as a term of their employment?
Posted by LouisianaLady
Member since Mar 2009
82218 posts
Posted on 5/28/24 at 9:30 am to
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I really think there's also a practical reason for this. If you worked at a school, would you want to deal with a kid going through anaphylactic shock?




Exactly. It this was an adult trying to make a public restaurant or something accommodate their severe allergy, I'd be right there with the annoyance.

But do you really trust the modern teacher or $10/hr lunch lady to manage a severe allergy of a small child?
Posted by LouisianaLady
Member since Mar 2009
82218 posts
Posted on 5/28/24 at 9:32 am to
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What’s changed??


Several theories exist as to why there could be a spike in food allergies. The main theory to explain a rise in allergic disease, including food allergy, is the "hygiene hypothesis" that generally suggests that "clean living" with less farm living and the use of medications to prevent and quickly treat infections leaves our immune system in a state that is more prone to attack harmless proteins like those in foods, pollens, and animal dander. Other theories include the timing of introduction of the food and how the food is prepared.

The authors caution that the study has limitations inherent to telephone surveys, which may over-represent households of high socioeconomic status because homes without telephones are excluded. There are also limitations in the self-reported nature of the survey, and identifying “true” allergy. However, the rate of childhood peanut allergy estimated in the current study is similar to results from studies using different methods in Canada, Australia and the UK.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
70937 posts
Posted on 5/28/24 at 9:32 am to
Yes. This has been an issue for a while. Lots of People with peanut allergies.
Posted by GreenRockTiger
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Member since Jun 2020
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Posted on 5/28/24 at 9:33 am to
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But do you really trust the modern teacher or $10/hr lunch lady to manage a severe allergy of a small child?
nope. My friend has a child with special needs so my friend sends lunch with her child. The teacher was also giving the child the school lunch.

I say teacher, but it’s just a person that gets paid to stay in the classroom.
Posted by LouisianaLady
Member since Mar 2009
82218 posts
Posted on 5/28/24 at 9:37 am to
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The teacher was also giving the child the school lunch.


I work in consulting in that realm, and I've heard a lot of school employees mention this. Sometimes it is from a place of good intent (giving a hot meal to a child whose parent is not providing), but you really gotta be careful with that.

If the parent is packing a substantial lunch, I feel like you really need to go through proper avenues before just giving a child (especially special needs) a meal.
Posted by Dadren
Jawja
Member since Dec 2023
2560 posts
Posted on 5/28/24 at 9:43 am to
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When they enter the work place one day, unless they work remotely, will everyone at that work place have to eliminate all peanut products there as a term of their employment?

Well, there’s a difference between kids and adults

Yes, in elementary schools you have to keep kids from making poor (and in this case possibly fatal) choices. You don’t have these restrictions in HS or even much in middle because older humans generally make better decisions.
Posted by Deuces
The bottom
Member since Nov 2011
15113 posts
Posted on 5/28/24 at 9:50 am to
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Well, there’s a difference between kids and adults


So it’s not necessarily the allergy itself, but trying to keep the kid from accidentally ingesting something that they shouldn’t?
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 5/28/24 at 9:51 am to
How are uncrustables still in business if this is real
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
37480 posts
Posted on 5/28/24 at 9:51 am to
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What’s changed??


among other factors, far far less exposure to peanuts as a child, especially during the pregnancy and infancy. Out of fear of the allergy, most aren't introduced to peanut products until way too late.
Posted by N2cars
Member since Feb 2008
34575 posts
Posted on 5/28/24 at 9:53 am to
I'm sorry kids have peanut allergies, but this is ridiculous.
Posted by LSURep864
Moscow, Idaho
Member since Nov 2007
11086 posts
Posted on 5/28/24 at 9:55 am to
Objectively it’s proving to be the proliferation of antibiotics being given to very young children and toddlers.

This is where the factual research is leading. Essentially all the bacteria in the gut which helps train children’s immune systems are being destroyed leading to these issues.

We have a 3 year old with severe food allergies to diary, peanuts, tree nuts. He was loaded up on antibiotics his first year of life. We didn’t know any better and our pediatrician never said a word.


It’s not an issue of being “soft libtard” if you believe so please do not reproduce.

My son will die if he consumes diary. We have to carry an epi pen everywhere we go.


It’s mind boggling the complaints on this thread. “Omg my kid can’t have a single option for lunch, it’s the fricking commies fault.”


We literally do not go out to eat as a family. Why? Because it can lead to death. The average minimum wage moron at a restaurant can’t even read a food label. No way in hell can they figure out cross contamination.


We don’t expect the world to cater to him forever. But he’s still too young to communicate things properly. So we have to be extra careful.

If all the people in this thread dunking on allergy parents knew how many dozens of daily things they do without a second thought that could literally kill their child they would reconsider their snowflake crying.


Kids church snacks? Gold fish? Better hope the messy arse 3 year old next to my kid doesn’t get it all over the place.

Birthdays? Cake has to made from scratch at home

Road trip?

Can’t swing through a drive thru. Ice chest and home made food.


Playing at the park? Kids with full sippy cups of milk slinging it around.


Want our other son to play little league baseball?

Peanuts all over the park.

Reading the food label of literally everything you give your child so they don’t die? Companies using shared equipment with diary products and not being required to label it?

Some of these seem minor if you don’t live the life. But when the margin of error equals death for your own child you get a bit obsessed with it.


Trust me. Society is not catering to allergy parents. If it did my life would be so much less stressful.


Imagine the inconvenience you feel when you can’t pack a PB&J about 12 times per day all day everyday. If I could just give my kids a PBJ and a glass of milk at lunch my life would be fantastic.


If you think this is a liberal political issue you have reasoning ability of emotional voter from Portland Oregon named Sparkle.
This post was edited on 5/28/24 at 9:57 am
Posted by SpotCheckBilly
Member since May 2020
7593 posts
Posted on 5/28/24 at 9:56 am to
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What boggles my mind is when I was a kid in the 70s & early 80s, things like a a peanut allergy were unheard of. Now it’s quite common. What’s changed??


That's the issue we should be investigating. I'm sure there was probably some kid somewhere who was allergic to peanut butter when I was in school, but it was not a widespread thing at all, nor were glutens an issue.

Some think it's a byproduct of all the vaccinations. I have no idea what is causing all these allergic reactions, but we should be trying to find out. That we are not, makes me suspicious.
Posted by LSURep864
Moscow, Idaho
Member since Nov 2007
11086 posts
Posted on 5/28/24 at 9:57 am to
See my post above. It’s antibiotics and their overuse.
Posted by Dadren
Jawja
Member since Dec 2023
2560 posts
Posted on 5/28/24 at 9:57 am to
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So it’s not necessarily the allergy itself, but trying to keep the kid from accidentally ingesting something that they shouldn’t?

Maybe I need more coffee but I’m not quite sure what distinction you’re trying to make here.

A peanut allergy is potentially fatal to anyone, regardless of age. Children are more likely to die from it because unlike adults, they’re touching everything, swapping food and operating with a general disregard for what they’re coming in contact with.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
130390 posts
Posted on 5/28/24 at 9:59 am to
No, it's the gross overreaction.

Some kid having a PB&J isn't gonna kill anyone.

And I'm sure the school has epi-pens on hand anyway
Posted by SwampyWaters
Member since Apr 2023
1901 posts
Posted on 5/28/24 at 10:01 am to
At my school, it is still allowed because parents at the beginning of the year fill out a food allergy form. If a student can't eat peanuts, they always have another meal ready for them, but they have to notify the cafeteria worker when they get in line. Cafeteria workers are given a list of names of students that have certain allergies, but at a large school, it's impossible to keep track of every student. I teach at a middle school, so I don't know how elementary schools handle that situation because students are so young.
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
31171 posts
Posted on 5/28/24 at 10:01 am to
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The teacher told me he couldn’t take his lunch since it had peanut butter. This was in case any kids have peanut allergies.

Is this the way it is everywhere now?
Do summer camp teachers check every kid's lunchbox, everyday?

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