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re: is it bad to leave your car running while pumping gas

Posted on 11/17/16 at 11:16 am to
Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
20543 posts
Posted on 11/17/16 at 11:16 am to
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Cigarettes don't burn hot enough to ignite gasoline fumes
But the flame to light them does.

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there has never been a documented case of a cell phone igniting gasoline fumes.


Agreed. I'm not saying those things are a factor as much as I'm saying that if there's enough gas vapor in the air that those things could happen, then the very second anybody downwind from the source starts a car engine, KABOOM!

Posted by CidCock
Member since Sep 2007
Member since Feb 2011
8701 posts
Posted on 11/17/16 at 11:24 am to
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I've been driving 23 years

quite an accomplishment, congrats
Posted by Sancho Panza
La Habaña, Cuba
Member since Sep 2014
8161 posts
Posted on 11/17/16 at 11:28 am to
Most places it's illegal to leave your engine running. Fire Hazzard.

Check Engine Light may come on, if you do.
Posted by Hulkklogan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2010
43482 posts
Posted on 11/17/16 at 11:28 am to
I always turn the car off.. just a habit. I never leave the pump going alone.. I've already had a pump fail to stop whenever the tank was full and spewed gas everywhere.. I was there to stop it...If I wasn't, i'd be a gigantic a-hole and a fire hazard.

This post was edited on 11/17/16 at 11:29 am
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34932 posts
Posted on 11/17/16 at 11:33 am to
Why? Do you have spark plugs in your gas tank?

In the middle of the summer I'm leaving my truck on with the ac on full blast while I pump my gas
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
33146 posts
Posted on 11/17/16 at 11:35 am to
I had a Ford pickup once that I think would consume the gasoline almost as fast as you could pump it in.

What a piece of shite that thing was.
Posted by BoostAddict
Member since Jun 2007
3254 posts
Posted on 11/17/16 at 11:35 am to
I've tempted fate and Darwin a more than a few times by filling mowers, generators and dirt bikes while running and/or hot... and spilled friggin gas all over the hot exhaust or spark plug.

No big deal.
Posted by SwaggerCopter
H TINE HOL IT DINE
Member since Dec 2012
27530 posts
Posted on 11/17/16 at 11:36 am to
The other day, I had a dead battery and was going to get a new one, but I needed gas, so I left it running while I put in like 10 bucks. I wasn't going to turn the car off and wait God knows how long for a friendly Houstonian with time on his hands.
Posted by 40 Rouge
The Wasatch Back
Member since Feb 2009
2716 posts
Posted on 11/17/16 at 11:45 am to
In Asia, it's widely acceptable to keep the car running, especially in full service stations
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
122522 posts
Posted on 11/17/16 at 11:58 am to
Are you too lazy to turn it off? Why would you leave it running? My uncle use to own a gas station, he retired about 10 yrs ago, but I would always go by and shoot the shite with them. They offered full service and if someone had their car running they would ask them to kill it before pumping, but if someone left it running on the self-service they wouldn't say anything.. With that said, it was amazing how many people they would have to tell to put out their cigarette.

People would get out, put the pump in, light up and smoke while pumping.. I never understood how anyone would think that was a good idea.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
48543 posts
Posted on 11/17/16 at 12:01 pm to
I think we are generally in agreement.

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But the flame to light them does
The problem with cigarettes is lighting them, not smoking them, as you stated and as I stated in a previous post.

It's logic vs fear, really.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
122522 posts
Posted on 11/17/16 at 12:07 pm to
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Cigarettes don't burn hot enough to ignite gasoline fumes and there has never been a documented case of a cell phone igniting gasoline fumes.


I just found this thread on Reddit.
LINK

You can get technical, but as a rule of thumb, its never really a good idea to have any type of fire, flame, etc around gasoline unless you plan on lighting it.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
48543 posts
Posted on 11/17/16 at 12:07 pm to
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can create static

Maybe (I'm not sure why, though), you're more likely to create static by getting back into and out of your car.

Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
48543 posts
Posted on 11/17/16 at 12:10 pm to
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You can get technical, but as a rule of thumb, its never really a good idea to have any type of fire, flame, etc around gasoline unless you plan on lighting it.


I am getting technical, it's a bad habit of mine .

The issue with smoking at the pump is more about getting complacent and lighting that second cigarette. That is a terrifying thought.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
48543 posts
Posted on 11/17/16 at 12:11 pm to
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put the pump in, light up and smoke while pumping


The lighting up is the really scary part. I dislike smoking to start with so I'd prefer people not do it anyway.
Posted by BR Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2004
4755 posts
Posted on 11/17/16 at 12:12 pm to
I wonder if this in any way is related to the says of full-service stations. When I was a kid, that was the norm and not only would they pump the gas for you, but they would usually get you to pop the hood and they would check oil levels, washer fluid, etc and top you off if you wanted. They would want the engine turned off if working under the hood I would think.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
48543 posts
Posted on 11/17/16 at 12:19 pm to
An interesting page in general and an interesting segment on cigarettes as lighters.

Stupid Movie Physics

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Cigarettes as Lighters We have seen a controlled experiment where a lit cigarette was introduced into a mixture of a few drops of gasoline and pure oxygen. The result: a very loud explosion, so... Before proceeding further we want to emphasize that under the right circumstances a cigarette can ignite gasoline with horrific results.


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Finally, we decided to conduct an experiment. We poured a very small amount of gasoline in an aluminum pie pan or slightly deeper cake pan and placed it in the middle of a concrete slab. The pie and cake pans were chosen because they allowed the gasoline to spread out into a very shallow puddle the way it would if spilled on the ground. It also pretty much guaranteed that the vapors at some point above the pan would mix enough with air to form an ignitable mixture. We lit a cigarette and tossed it into the pan. The cigarette paper wicked up gasoline and quenched the glowing tip without igniting anything (see Figure 4). We tossed in more lit cigarettes. We tried lighting gasoline soaked paper towels. We used long tongs for reaching far away objects to hold glowing cigarettes over the pan at various heights. More than once we placed several glowing cigarettes in the pan (see Figure 5). Our record was 40 glowing cigarettes at one time. In most cases, we allowed the glowing cigarettes to smolder until they went out. Various experiments were conducted at different times of the day with different air temperatures and humidity. A total of 223 cigarettes of 11 different types were eventually used all without ever igniting the gasoline. Yet, at the end of each experimental session the gasoline was successfully lit using a single match attached to a long pole (see figures 6 and 7). The gasoline would typically ignite just before the match touched it.
Posted by Teton Tiger
Somewhere between here and there.
Member since Mar 2005
3037 posts
Posted on 11/17/16 at 12:19 pm to
Not true, happen in New Siberia Lewis St by Hwy 90 , explosion auto pumps two dead
Posted by Hulkklogan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2010
43482 posts
Posted on 11/17/16 at 12:43 pm to
No, because then gasoline is sprayed everywhere and creates a fire hazard.
Posted by ksayetiger
Centenary Gents
Member since Jul 2007
70467 posts
Posted on 11/17/16 at 12:47 pm to
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of the hassle of turning back on my Bluetooth every time I restart my car


First world problems
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