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re: Is internal audit a waste of a career?

Posted on 9/18/25 at 9:08 am to
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 9/18/25 at 9:08 am to
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Almost 15 years now. It was a simpler time.


I prefer to say sas70
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
41600 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 9:09 am to
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have a buddy who did a similar route. Do you find you are still compensated well (compared to audit)


Yeah I think so but I am in New Jersey so maybe for my Louisiana eyes I am like damn I make good money. (Been here 20 years)
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 9/18/25 at 9:11 am to
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find the whole “AI will replace _____ argument” to be a bit of an exaggeration. Will it have impacts? Certainly. Some sales jobs could have been replace 2 decades ago but people still want people (for the most part). The initial cost of having a secure and intelligent enough AI system is steep and would take years upon years to develop.


15 years ago it was india was going to replace you.


Lol our systems are so screwed up I can't get out of excel. Good luck AI
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
41600 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 9:20 am to
So not sure I gave a good answer - I did 2 years small public accounting in Monroe and want bigger city experience was able to leverage IA course work and get IA role in Dallas high travel. Did KPMG advisory and other consulting but ultimately landed in IA department.

First point not all IA departments are the same or respect within the organization. If it is done right it is a launching board into other roles in the organization. I was in a stagnet department that was not cutting edge and rightfully not well respect in my org. That said I was decently respected and was able to get into accounting roll but took me years. From there I can't go back to "did you ever think of doing x". I have been on the frontline and cringe at who I was as an auditor. Doing and auditing are different for sure.

I love how many processes I for see and how I got to see things done well and not done well and can you share what was working with others.

I always felt Audit and n the early years (peak sox) keep me.well paid. Maybe a bit soul crushing but was a good career .

I think though with this wall of text my main point is try to be in a really good IA department. It rotated people out. It is wwll respect. It has good processes and risk assessment procedures just not admin we have to do soc we did it. Other groups consult.tou for advice etc.

I felt lucky to get out but I was 13-15 years in so I guess the questions is long term do you want out or could this be your career?
Posted by Youngeye77
Member since Sep 2025
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Posted on 9/18/25 at 9:42 am to
I could see it go either way. Ultimately, I want to make enough money to support my family and be financially stable. I’m achieving that now but life only gets more expensive. And who doesn’t want more money.

I could see myself making the jump but I know I need to be strategic about it. To your point, I feel like it’s impossible for people to make the jump out of IA when they are moving to another company. Normally see it happen internally.
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
41600 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 11:05 am to
Some although not the majority use Audit as a way for people to come in a learn the company so one of those departments could be good.

As other said once I reached a level someone needed to die for me to move up. I also knew our department was lagging behind on current trends and best practices. I tried to convince director but he wouldn't. Luckily I got our in time bc the canned him and brought in new guy who cut half the staff.
Posted by LSUnKaty
Katy, TX
Member since Dec 2008
4719 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 11:42 am to
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Is internal audit a waste of a career?
Apparently not - if you are auditing Ricks Cabaret!
Posted by geauxpurple
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2014
16075 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 11:45 am to
You need to pass the CPA exam.
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
41600 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 11:53 am to
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You need to pass the CPA exam.


Highly encourage it


As someone who has done alright without the time for studying etc never gets easier.


Ultimately I never thought I would make more money for doing so I didn't. But waiting for the right time never happens.

Posted by Hobo Code
Member since Jan 2018
236 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 12:19 pm to
Chat gpt.
I just feel that as accounting processes streamline, there will be audit tests that could be performed much more efficiently and accurately with AI. Revenue tracing, payables, financial statement review through OCR, revisions of internal controls, fraud detection. All could easily be enhanced through AI at a fraction of the cost of your typical audit shop.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
35675 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 1:16 pm to
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Chat gpt.


Put even a moderately complicated question into chat gpt and see what it says. It’s not going to give you half of the information you need.

Again, could it eventually, I’m sure that’s possible, yes. But in order to do so, it will have the ability to replace most every job at that point and then we have an entirely different discussion on our hands. You shouldn’t not go into audit because of AI, because you specifically aren’t at risk to losing your job, we all would be
Posted by Prodigal Son
Member since May 2023
1590 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 5:48 pm to
Is this another chat gpt answer?
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
42440 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 7:04 pm to
It was baw.
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
12739 posts
Posted on 9/19/25 at 10:14 am to
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I want to make enough money to support my family and be financially stable. I’m achieving that now but life only gets more expensive.

If you chase work (revenue) and find ways to make yourself useful, you'll never have a problem staying employed. If you just coast between the same couple of SOX engagements, or whatever, you will always be at risk.

Life only gets more expensive if you let your wife and kids do it to you. You have to take an extremely active role in your family to keep it in check. If you don't, you'll become chained to a job and an income to pay off the debt from your Disney cruise, the week in 30A, the five figures worth of spending on kids activities a year, etc. If you control it, you'll have a much greater level of freedom and flexibility.
Posted by LaLadyinTx
Cypress, TX
Member since Nov 2018
7102 posts
Posted on 9/19/25 at 10:55 am to
You're not stuck at all. I'm a CFO who started out in audit a very long time ago. IA doesn't have to always focus on SOX type work. A lot of companies audit operational policies as well. My company's IA program has gotten more and more related to operational and legal risk over the years. I personally think internal audit helps you learn about all the different facets of operation of a company and can qualify you for broader operations finance roles.
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
72512 posts
Posted on 9/19/25 at 11:05 am to
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Been in the game 20+ years
God bless accountants, I am smart and clever enough to have been one but the thought of doing it (even for good pay) for 20+ years is chilling to me.

Someone once told me they are like Mormons: you might not want to be one but you’d be happy to have one for a neighbor.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
35675 posts
Posted on 9/19/25 at 11:07 am to
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I am smart and clever enough to have been one


I believe you believe that
Posted by LaLadyinTx
Cypress, TX
Member since Nov 2018
7102 posts
Posted on 9/19/25 at 12:57 pm to
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Just bite the bullet and do it. Is it fun? Hell no, but it is worth it with so many accountants these days opting not to do it for the same reasons you listed or that they are just lazy.


100% Basically, give up 3-4 months of your life to study. Get buy in from your wife. Plan on about 20 hours per week studying on top of work. Set yourself a schedule and stick to it.

Being a CPA doesn't say how much you know. It says how much you care about advancing in your profession.



Posted by ApisMellifera
SWLA
Member since Apr 2023
681 posts
Posted on 9/19/25 at 4:26 pm to
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Being a CPA doesn't say how much you know. It says how much you care about advancing in your profession.


Absolutely.
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
68661 posts
Posted on 9/19/25 at 4:29 pm to
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Someone once told me they are like Mormons:


Except for all the partying, booze, and drugs.
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