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re: Is Gen Z etc totally out of touch about salaries?

Posted on 5/22/22 at 3:36 pm to
Posted by tokenBoiler
Lafayette, Indiana
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 5/22/22 at 3:36 pm to
Are those bennies paying any rent for the worker?

$2400 / month before taxes really doesn't seem like much to live on these days.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
60669 posts
Posted on 5/22/22 at 3:38 pm to
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Now these kids think they deserve the 50k lifestyle
the 50k lifestyle is living with roommates and driving a beater
Posted by bad93ex
Walnut Cove
Member since Sep 2018
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Posted on 5/22/22 at 3:38 pm to
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$2400 / month before taxes really doesn't seem like much to live on these days.



Considering rent payments, that is going to be a lot of ramen noodles in the diet.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 5/22/22 at 3:38 pm to
Something else that young people don't do anymore is getting a second job. You get that 9 to 5 with all your benefits and the pay covers all of your basic necessities. Then you get that part time second job for fun money.

Younger people today wouldn't even think of such a thing!
Posted by Jsand43
Member since May 2021
882 posts
Posted on 5/22/22 at 3:40 pm to
Ummm most people that do Uber waiter doordash etc, do it as a secondary job. People still have second jobs they are just different than the ones back in the day.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 5/22/22 at 3:42 pm to
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that is going to be a lot of ramen noodles in the diet.


Yep, and young people of every generation went through that phase of life where they ate a lot of ramen noodles, and other cheap shitty foods. But the most recent generation of young people think this is beneath them!

After you work your way up you can start having steaks and fine cigars and whatever the trendy new whiskey is. But you don't get that when you are young, unless you were born into a lot of money, but that's not who we are talking about right now.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
60669 posts
Posted on 5/22/22 at 3:44 pm to
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Yep, and young people of every generation went through that phase of life where they ate a lot of ramen noodles, and other cheap shitty foods.
i didn't
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 5/22/22 at 3:44 pm to
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Ummm most people that do Uber waiter doordash etc, do it as a secondary job. People still have second jobs they are just different than the ones back in the day.


I guarantee every single bar or restaurant in Houston is hiring and depending what job you are good at, make between $100 and $200 a night, say three days a week. Without spending money on gasoline or miles on the car. That's another $1200 a month in your pocket.
Posted by nikki6
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
1967 posts
Posted on 5/22/22 at 3:45 pm to
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This is such a load of horse shite. No two people can live off of $80 a week in groceries right now.


Went to HEB yesterday. Bill was $76 and change

1. Big Container of fresh spinach

2. 2 cucumbers
3. Red onion
4. 2 bags of bacon bits
5. 18 eggs
6. 1lb garlic sasuage
7. 2 bags tortillas
8. 2lb smoked turkey
9. Package of Swiss cheese
10. 2 bags of chips
11. Box of raisan bran
12. Container of almond milk
13. 2 cans of blue runner
14. 24 bottles of spring water
15. Container of half & half
16. A bag of riced cauliflower

That's all I can remember
Not counting stuff I already have like mayo, mustard, salad dressing, frozen chicken strips from Costco, ground beef from Costco etc


Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
75376 posts
Posted on 5/22/22 at 3:49 pm to
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Went to HEB yesterday. Bill was $76 and change


Yep. Lots of noodle dishes and pastas, bean and rice dishes, while not glamorous, can absolutely be accomplished on $80/wk for two people.
Posted by BEATbama05
Benton, LA
Member since Oct 2008
722 posts
Posted on 5/22/22 at 3:49 pm to
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stock purchase option at 15% discount


How long do they have to hold the shares before selling? Sign me up if it’s an immediate flip.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111467 posts
Posted on 5/22/22 at 3:50 pm to
Looking through that grocery list, you would be very lean trying to live on that. There is no real protein for lunch/dinner besides deli meat
This post was edited on 5/22/22 at 3:51 pm
Posted by PowerTool
The dark side of the road
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 5/22/22 at 3:51 pm to
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Ummm most people that do Uber waiter doordash etc, do it as a secondary job. People still have second jobs they are just different than the ones back in the day.


Not to mention that Uber, Amazon Flex, and presumably others have vehicle requirements. Driving an old beater doesn't cut for a lot of side hustles.

ETA: and not to mention the unlimited data plan for a recently purchased smartphone.
This post was edited on 5/22/22 at 3:53 pm
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
42288 posts
Posted on 5/22/22 at 3:53 pm to
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Not counting stuff I already have like mayo, mustard, salad dressing, frozen chicken strips from Costco, ground beef from Costco etc


Oh so the expensive stuff. Got it.
Posted by Jsand43
Member since May 2021
882 posts
Posted on 5/22/22 at 3:53 pm to
Well I don't know what y'all do for a living, maybe sit behind a desk, I say that with respect by the way. I however, workout side doing physical labor for 10 hours a day. What you just listed wouldn't last me two days much less a whole week LOL. Certain people need a lot more calories than others. And I'm not a fatty not even close.
Posted by bad93ex
Walnut Cove
Member since Sep 2018
36118 posts
Posted on 5/22/22 at 3:54 pm to
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Not to mention that Uber, Amazon Flex, and presumably others have vehicle requirements. Driving an old beater doesn't cut for a lot of side hustles.



I know that Uber has become incredibly lax with their vehicle requirements and if you're doing Eats or Flex then it doesn't matter what you drive.
Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
51733 posts
Posted on 5/22/22 at 3:57 pm to
$15 has been poverty wage for a while now. Cost of living has increased dramatically over the past two to three decades meanwhile the minimum wage has hardly increased. When that happens there’s bound to be massive problems
Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
51733 posts
Posted on 5/22/22 at 3:59 pm to
Young people still get multiple jobs that’s a dumb statement spoken by someone out of touch with any generation after him
Posted by El Segundo Guy
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Member since Aug 2014
11648 posts
Posted on 5/22/22 at 3:59 pm to
Minimum wage doesn't mean shite.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
92263 posts
Posted on 5/22/22 at 3:59 pm to
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15/hr in 2022 is $31,200. So you made $9,800 more a year. Even by today's numbers a roughly $10K salary difference is pretty solid. But let's look at it a little deeper.

According to MN Fed.org, $1 in 1984 has the buying power as $2.61 cents in 2021. And since 2021, inflation has skyrocketed.

But even as of last year...

If we took your salary of $41k an year and adjusted it for the MN Fed inflation data $1(1984) = $2.61(2021), your $41k salary has the same amount of buying power as $107K. That $9,800 extra ($41k - $31.2k) is the same as $25.5k in 2021. That's 81% of the salary you are in here saying is acceptable.

So to wrap it all up and put it in plain language for you, your "shitty" salary that you said you "made it on"... Would be like someone who make $107K in New York last year saying they barely making it.

And you're out of touch arse is in this thread bitching at someone complaining about making $31K a year, and somehow think your experience is very similar to their current one.



was kind of bouncing back and forth responding to a couple of people, what I said was, according to google, $1500 in 1984(which is what I started out at in NYC in 1984, is equivalent to about $4100 today, it was poverty level, certainly for my qualifications but I knew there was great potential in the job/career, wasn't really bitching, putting anyone down, just discussin', and pointing out that you have to play the cards you're dealt, that's all
This post was edited on 5/22/22 at 4:01 pm
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