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re: Is Gen Z etc totally out of touch about salaries?

Posted on 5/22/22 at 3:59 pm to
Posted by Dire Wolf
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Posted on 5/22/22 at 3:59 pm to
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My daughter in laws 19 year old brother


Wouldn’t that just be your son in law?
Posted by Jsand43
Member since May 2021
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Posted on 5/22/22 at 4:02 pm to
$50000 a year is not or has never been poverty level
Posted by Jsand43
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882 posts
Posted on 5/22/22 at 4:03 pm to
LMAO, that's not how it works that's not how any of this works
Posted by El Segundo Guy
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Posted on 5/22/22 at 4:03 pm to
You can live a decent QOL in flyover states at 50k/year.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 5/22/22 at 4:04 pm to
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Chicken isn’t cheap. I just came of meal prep for a show and my food cost was 200/week and I’m talking meat and rice

Chicken isn't cheap, but a whole rotisserie chicken runs $6.99 at the grocery store. $5.10 if you want it uncooked. So $200/week is a lot of chicken.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 5/22/22 at 4:04 pm to
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Looking through that grocery list, you would be very lean trying to live on that. There is no real protein for lunch/dinner besides deli meat


It's not a uniform list that is repeated every week, other weeks would be heavier on protein but light on other stuff you already have from a previous week, one week might have a big thing of toilet paper but then you don't have to buy that for several more weeks, see?
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 5/22/22 at 4:06 pm to
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Wouldn’t that just be your son in law?
Only in West Virginia.
Posted by Cymry Teigr
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 5/22/22 at 4:07 pm to
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Something else that young people don't do anymore is getting a second job. You get that 9 to 5 with all your benefits and the pay covers all of your basic necessities. Then you get that part time second job for fun money. Younger people today wouldn't even think of such a thing!


Most folks want something better than they had for their kids and grandkids. When we are approaching the level that every young person needs 2 jobs to survive, we have failed massively as a society.

I’d also love to know in the case of the OP’s company thinking that $15/hr is such an awesome deal, how many of their warehouse employees are getting by only because of taxpayer funded handouts, be it food stamps, rental assistance, etc. I’d also love to know what exactly the advancement options really are for those employees. To me it sounds just like a glorified ad for a dead end job. Every company ever has always said there’s paths to promotion. Reality is the number of warehouse workers getting promoted is probably limited to a handful at best. And I’d bet the requirements for advancement are to have a college degree.

There’s definitely some younger folks living way beyond their means or expecting way too much, but there’s a heck of a lot of older folks in this thread that are completely out of touch with reality.

As a reference point, both of my teenage granddaughters still in high school earn close to that $15/hr figure. It’s absurd to think that’s an ok wage to offer for someone supporting themselves when the same wage can be earned by kids living at home still.

And, that $15/hr is remarkably close to what I made in my early 20s forty years ago. I can definitely recall months where I had to watch my expenses towards the end of a pay period. Granted I lived in NYC at the time, but rents were drastically cheaper (even in Manhattan) than we expect people to fork over now. And food was nowhere near what it costs now.
Posted by dj30
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 5/22/22 at 4:09 pm to
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Wouldn’t that just be your son in law?


Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 5/22/22 at 4:10 pm to
Boomers and Zoomers have a lot in common.

quote:

Well we're waiting here in allentown
For the pennsylvania we never found
For the promises our teachers gave
If we worked hard
If we behaved
So the graduations hang on the wall
But they never really helped us at all
No they never taught us what was real
Iron and coke
And chromium steel
And we're waiting here in allentown
But they've taken all the coal from the ground
And the union people crawled away
Every child had a pretty good shot
To get at least as far as their old man got
But something happened on the way to that place
They threw an american flag in our face


Billy Joel - Allentown
Posted by DCtiger1
Member since Jul 2009
11788 posts
Posted on 5/22/22 at 4:10 pm to
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Chicken isn't cheap, but a whole rotisserie chicken runs $6.99 at the grocery store.


That’s the standard now in the USA, a fricking rotisserie chicken .
Posted by nikki6
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
1967 posts
Posted on 5/22/22 at 4:11 pm to
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Oh so the expensive stuff. Got it.


5 lb bag chicken strips($14)
Ground meat ($2.99 lb when we bought 3 approx 7lb packages and froze in lb increments)

Mustard isn't expensive, neither is salad dressing or mayo

Also have 3 chuck roasts in our chest freezer that I bought when they were on sale for like $1.99 lb. Throw that in the crock pot with carrots, potatos, and celery. A good hearty meal.

$80 a week is doable if you plan. We also use the HEB coupons or Kroger coupons they send to us for only the products we buy. We aren't eating t-bones every night, but we're not eating ramen noodles every night either.
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 5/22/22 at 4:12 pm to
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Only in West Virginia.



I was thinking bama
Posted by PowerTool
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Posted on 5/22/22 at 4:16 pm to
They've probably gotten more lax than the last time I looked, and I'm sure there's little enforcement. With Flex, they do have vehicle type requirements, maybe not year requirements. I thought about trying it after some professional acquaintance was bragging about his easy routes, but pickup trucks were a no-no.
Posted by McCorkleJonesGOAT
Member since Apr 2022
362 posts
Posted on 5/22/22 at 4:16 pm to
Man what a stupid son of a bitch, eh?
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 5/22/22 at 4:17 pm to
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Same as chick FIL a and other fast food. Labor is expensive right now and your paying fast food wages.


Labor is expensive because people have a way to comfortably survive on the government alone.

If you had to earn a living to feed your family you would get your arse to work.

Now progressives will say this is great! It raises wages! Yes but companies aren’t going to lose money they will just raise prices on everything. This wipes out all the wage gains people think they got.

The only people who lose are people who worked hard and saved their money. Inflation wipes out those savings.
Posted by Cymry Teigr
Member since Sep 2012
2138 posts
Posted on 5/22/22 at 4:18 pm to
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5 lb bag chicken strips($14) Ground meat ($2.99 lb when we bought 3 approx 7lb packages and froze in lb increments)


How many 18-20 year olds do you think have access to a large freezer in the apartment the rent? Sure it’s easy for us to just go out and buy two 10# bags of chicken quarters from Rouses at $0.35/lb this week, but where the heck are they going to put it?

Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
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Posted on 5/22/22 at 4:19 pm to
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$15 has been poverty wage for a while now.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 5/22/22 at 4:21 pm to
$15 will have you renting in a bad part of town, saving no money for the future, gaining no wealth at all, and living a complete no frills life where you live in basic grocery meals every meal of your life

Define that how you want
This post was edited on 5/22/22 at 4:22 pm
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
75376 posts
Posted on 5/22/22 at 4:26 pm to
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but where the heck are they going to put it?


In their regular freezer.
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