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re: Is Esquire a black thing?

Posted on 5/2/17 at 8:58 am to
Posted by StrongSafety
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Posted on 5/2/17 at 8:58 am to
I heard if yih went to a bad law school that's what you do but I don't know how true that is
Posted by StrongSafety
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Posted on 5/2/17 at 8:58 am to
Black folks do wear their academic accomplishment proudly though. Have to consider most of them are first generation professionals in their family. I don't find it to be bad thing
Posted by Pettifogger
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Posted on 5/2/17 at 9:01 am to
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I'm not criticizing the black attorneys that do it. But I have not seen any of my white peers use Esq. in their Facebook name. I had multiple black classmates make that addition as soon as bar results came out.



95% of people who questionably put designations after their names are black, or they're women employed in administrative positions that list every certification or seminar they've ever attended.

I'd estimate 90% of the people who use Esq. for themselves are black, at least in Atlanta. Black attorneys here also say "Attorney Smith" or "Attorney Jackson," which is something I never see from white attorneys. For example, even a black judge around here may refer to you as Attorney _________, but pretty much every white judge says the generic "counsel" or "Mr. ________"

Nothing wrong with it, it's just interesting to see differences in how people operate.
Posted by Pettifogger
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Posted on 5/2/17 at 9:02 am to
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Black folks do wear their academic accomplishment proudly though. Have to consider most of them are first generation professionals in their family. I don't find it to be bad thing



I would guess this is the reason as well
Posted by NIH
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Posted on 5/2/17 at 9:02 am to
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The rule has not been proven other than some statements that only black people do this.


Who said this?

Many black attorneys use esquire, I worked in a legal office in a small town and whenever we'd get a document with Esq on it somewhere, it was a damn good chance they were a black attorney.
Posted by Pettifogger
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Posted on 5/2/17 at 9:06 am to
Subtlety and blandness are considered virtues in the white professional world. Probably less so in the black professional world. I think it echoes other differences in the black and white communities in the south.

Trendy nice restaurants in Atlanta either become magnets for black professionals or they don't. Guess which ones don't? The ones that look like someone turned an abandoned industrial space into a fine dining restaurant. Guess which ones do? Hip asian bistros with multi colored waterfalls inside them and velvet furniture.
This post was edited on 5/2/17 at 9:07 am
Posted by StrongSafety
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Posted on 5/2/17 at 9:15 am to
Eh yeah and no.

It's a new money and older newer money type of deal.

New money doesn't know how to "act" per se; they just got to the party. Old money has been at the party for a while and knows how to conduct itself, if that makes sense.

Trust me. Meet any 2nd/3rd generation black professional and you'll see the difference. Like those bougie creoles in Louisiana / Nola
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 5/2/17 at 9:18 am to
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Hip asian bistros with multi colored waterfalls inside them and velvet furniture.


Classy AF
Posted by Pettifogger
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Posted on 5/2/17 at 9:25 am to
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Classy AF



Posted by chalmetteowl
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Posted on 5/2/17 at 9:38 am to
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This means that they'll add some title to their name to try & boost their otherwise flagging self-esteem.




they worked hard so that they can call themselves Esquire while you can't...
Posted by 777Tiger
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Posted on 5/2/17 at 9:54 am to
usually the ones that I see making a big deal out of that are the ones that haven't passed the bar or got their law degree from DeVry Institute of Technology or the Diesel Driving Academy
Posted by Kraut Dawg
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Posted on 5/2/17 at 5:43 pm to
This post was edited on 11/8/20 at 2:28 pm
Posted by Mo Jeaux
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Posted on 5/2/17 at 5:52 pm to
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Eh yeah and no.

It's a new money and older newer money type of deal.

New money doesn't know how to "act" per se; they just got to the party. Old money has been at the party for a while and knows how to conduct itself, if that makes sense.

Trust me. Meet any 2nd/3rd generation black professional and you'll see the difference. Like those bougie creoles in Louisiana / Nola


I generally agree with this. There are several black families in my circle who are at least 2nd generation professionals and could generally be described as acting more old money. One guy is even a huge opera buff who can talk your ear off for hours about Wagner's Ring Cycle.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 5/2/17 at 5:55 pm to
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Black folks do wear their academic accomplishment proudly though. Have to consider most of them are first generation professionals in their family. I don't find it to be bad thing

this is correct

what's the deal with the hyphenated names?

i've never been able to peg that one down

yeah lots of liberal white ladies do the hyphenated names, but that's a super feminist niche. it's them and black women, basically
Posted by Esquire
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Posted on 5/2/17 at 5:56 pm to
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Is Esquire a black thing?


Posted by tigrbabe08
Member since Apr 2017
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Posted on 5/2/17 at 6:13 pm to
What's the protocol for if you have a JD but aren't barred or don't practice law? Can you still use JD, but not Esq?


Side story: saw a law professor at LSU get into it when a professor on main campus demanded she call him Dr. So and So instead of Mr. She said, "I have a JD so technically I'm a DOCTOR TOO!!!" I didn't want to argue with her but I think she was wrong haha
Posted by Dick Jacket
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Posted on 5/2/17 at 6:25 pm to
She's not incorrect, but hardly anyone does that.

The only time I've demanded to be called doctor was in the presence of a lot of pharmacists who were addressing each other as doctor. If they're doctors, I'm a doctor.
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