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re: Is Daily Concealed Carrying An Acceptance Of A Pessimistic View Of Life/Humanity?

Posted on 12/28/18 at 10:43 am to
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
138931 posts
Posted on 12/28/18 at 10:43 am to
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by law, if you are entering the dwelling or vehicle owned by some one else, you have to ask permission. This does not apply to businesses.

I've literally never heard of this
Posted by LordSnow
Your Mom's House
Member since May 2011
6080 posts
Posted on 12/28/18 at 10:56 am to
Me either. Certainly wasn't covered in the ccl class
Posted by LordSnow
Your Mom's House
Member since May 2011
6080 posts
Posted on 12/28/18 at 11:01 am to
A quick Google shows he's more than likely full of shite about that homeowner notification BS. Since he's a cop he's probably confusing his rules with the general publics.
Posted by GrammarKnotsi
Member since Feb 2013
10152 posts
Posted on 12/28/18 at 11:03 am to
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I've literally never heard of this



he also has to tell you he is a cop if you ask..
Posted by TopFlightSecurity
Watertown, NY
Member since Dec 2018
1318 posts
Posted on 12/28/18 at 11:27 am to
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Just remember, violence happens fast, without warning and unexpectedly. I don’t see it as living in fear. I will be ready if the situation ever calls for it. I don’t live in fear because I can respond.


Damn you're a badass
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 12/28/18 at 11:33 am to
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Me either. Certainly wasn't covered in the ccl class


It was covered in my Louisiana class, and it is stated clearly in the Louisiana concealed carry handbook.

"The provisions of R.S. 40:1379.3 (N) shall not limit the right of a property owner, lessee, or other lawful custodian to prohibit or restrict access of those persons possessing a concealed handgun pursuant to a permit issued under this Section. No individual to whom a concealed handgun permit is issued may carry such concealed handgun into the private residence of another without first receiving the consent of that person."
This post was edited on 12/28/18 at 11:35 am
Posted by TopFlightSecurity
Watertown, NY
Member since Dec 2018
1318 posts
Posted on 12/28/18 at 11:46 am to
I love the logic from gun nuts that you can never be too prepared so you need a gun even if you live in a safe suburb and don't do anything high risk.

Obesity causes all sorts of health problems and even death but 36.2% of Louisiana is fat as frick. I don't see these gun owners saying they need to eat a salad just in case when they are hundreds times more likely to die of obesity related health issues than they are to have to defend themselves with a gun.

Plain and simple for the majority of people who carry it's just a way to feel powerful and relevant.


LINK
Posted by oleheat
Sportsman's Paradise
Member since Mar 2007
14796 posts
Posted on 12/28/18 at 11:54 am to
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Obesity causes all sorts of health problems and even death but 36.2% of Louisiana is fat as frick. I don't see these gun owners saying they need to eat a salad just in case when they are hundreds times more likely to die of obesity related health issues than they are to have to defend themselves with a gun.


Now you know what they say about pointing fingers.




quote:

Five states with the highest food-insecurity among children — Mississippi, Georgia, Arkansas, Texas, and North Carolina — had obesity rates above the national rate of 27.1%.


Nice going, Stalin. Feed your kids, for Christ's sake....
This post was edited on 12/28/18 at 11:56 am
Posted by ProfFrink
Springfield
Member since Nov 2018
3407 posts
Posted on 12/28/18 at 11:57 am to
Don’t own a gun and never have. I have never felt unsafe.

I also support people’s rights to own a gun.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
37066 posts
Posted on 12/28/18 at 12:02 pm to
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It was covered in my Louisiana class, and it is stated clearly in the Louisiana concealed carry handbook.

"The provisions of R.S. 40:1379.3 (N) shall not limit the right of a property owner, lessee, or other lawful custodian to prohibit or restrict access of those persons possessing a concealed handgun pursuant to a permit issued under this Section. No individual to whom a concealed handgun permit is issued may carry such concealed handgun into the private residence of another without first receiving the consent of that person."

I don't hear the crickets chirping anymore
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58521 posts
Posted on 12/28/18 at 12:02 pm to
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Me either. Certainly wasn't covered in the ccl class


well it should have been. TIme to go back and read your laws on carrying.
LSP Rule book
quote:

LRS 40:1379.3
§1379.3. Statewide permits for concealed handguns; application procedures; definitions


O. The provisions of Subsection N of this Section shall not limit the right of a property
owner, lessee, or other lawful custodian to prohibit or restrict access of those persons possessing
a concealed handgun pursuant to a permit issued under this Section. No individual to whom a
concealed handgun permit is issued may carry such concealed handgun into the private residence
of another without first receiving the consent of that person.



it is basically a 12th man to the 11 places you cant carry a concealed weapon.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58521 posts
Posted on 12/28/18 at 12:03 pm to
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A quick Google shows he's more than likely full of shite about that homeowner notification BS. Since he's a cop he's probably confusing his rules with the general publics.


man this was satisfying when i came back to this thread to see yalls comments.
This post was edited on 12/28/18 at 12:10 pm
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58521 posts
Posted on 12/28/18 at 12:04 pm to
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I don't hear the crickets chirping anymore
yea im waiting on them to come back and continue the discussion. and ask me if im a cop and ill tell you no.
Posted by oleheat
Sportsman's Paradise
Member since Mar 2007
14796 posts
Posted on 12/28/18 at 12:27 pm to
The issue involving private residences or a business was covered in every class I've ever taken, FWIW. But it is still the individual's RESPONSIBILITY to know the law and stay current with them.

A business does indeed have the right to tell someone carrying to leave. If they refuse because it's not part of the "official" list of prohibited places, they could likely face trespassing charges.

But the idea of concealed carry is no one around you knowing you are armed, if properly done. The average person never knows, and rarely thinks about it. So overwhelmingly, most cases of those who miss the sign posted at the door go completely unnoticed.

Posted by GrammarKnotsi
Member since Feb 2013
10152 posts
Posted on 12/28/18 at 12:27 pm to
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and ask me if im a cop and ill tell you no.


but a friend told me that was true...

Posted by DeafJam73
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
19122 posts
Posted on 12/28/18 at 12:27 pm to
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Damn you're a badass


Wow. What an insightful response.
Posted by Dead End
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2013
21237 posts
Posted on 12/28/18 at 12:36 pm to
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I love the logic from gun nuts t


Is that one of the pieces that holds a gun together or the part that makes it shoot faster?
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58521 posts
Posted on 12/28/18 at 12:38 pm to
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The issue involving private residences or a business was covered in every class I've ever taken, FWIW. But it is still the individual's RESPONSIBILITY to know the law and stay current with them.

A business does indeed have the right to tell someone carrying to leave. If they refuse because it's not part of the "official" list of prohibited places, they could likely face trespassing charges.

But the idea of concealed carry is no one around you knowing you are armed, if properly done. The average person never knows, and rarely thinks about it. So overwhelmingly, most cases of those who miss the sign posted at the door go completely unnoticed.
the discussion is about alerting private residences. there are 11, with a 12th, places you cant on concealed carry. you can walk in a business and no one will know, you dont have to alert ayone and you o about your business. But if you walk into a privte residences, by law you have to alert the owner of said private residence and get permission to have it.

the permission from private business deals more with open carry. you can walk into any store with a gun on your hip. BUT the moment you are asked to leave, you have to do so.
This post was edited on 12/28/18 at 12:59 pm
Posted by Dead End
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2013
21237 posts
Posted on 12/28/18 at 12:39 pm to
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Plain and simple for the majority of people who carry it's just a way to feel powerful and relevant.


I see stupidity is on full display today.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58521 posts
Posted on 12/28/18 at 12:40 pm to
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but a friend told me that was true...

im really worried about Lord Snow and upgrayyed. I hope i didnt trigger them and they go back and read their laws.
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