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re: Is Daily Concealed Carrying An Acceptance Of A Pessimistic View Of Life/Humanity?

Posted on 12/28/18 at 6:45 am to
Posted by Dead End
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2013
21237 posts
Posted on 12/28/18 at 6:45 am to
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1. I told you that I was searching for non biased sources and asked for them.

2. I really don’t care all that much about this shite as it doesn’t affect me, so I’m not going to put in hours of research looking for scholarly articles in journals without direction. The OP asked for an opinion and I gave one


You're clearly out of your league.

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3. You didn’t answer my question regarding the PhD. Why would a normal person know all of this bullshite about gun statistics?


Because he's more knowledgeable than you? No need to get triggered.

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4. You’re probably a redneck who is scared of his own shadow

ETA: your avatar is a picture of ammunition, what color is your F250?


That's how i know you've lost the debate. Good job, kid.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
37065 posts
Posted on 12/28/18 at 7:02 am to
I gave my opinion on the subject which is what the OP asked for. Obviously the gun zealots don’t appreciate anyone who isn’t 100% pro-gun 100% of the time. I asked for non biased resources and was called an imbecile. I’m not triggered whatsoever, as I stated that I don’t reallly care about the subject all that much. I have an opinion on it, and I’m even willing to be swayed, but I haven’t found any of the “arguments” in the thread to be based upon anything other than planning for the minuscule chance that something may happen to them or their family.

How many people in this thread who carry have ever had to use their gun for self defense?
Posted by CptRusty
Basket of Deplorables
Member since Aug 2011
11740 posts
Posted on 12/28/18 at 7:25 am to
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I don’t reallly care about the subject all that much.


Which is why you've spent a full day in a 13 page thread arguing about it.

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I haven’t found any of the “arguments” in the thread to be based upon anything other than planning for the minuscule chance that something may happen to them or their family


It has been pointed out multiple times that taking preventative measures against unlikely catastrophes is something everyone does nearly every day. You're just triggered because you don't like guns.

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How many people in this thread who carry have ever had to use their gun for self defense?


I haven't and I pray I never do. I also have never needed my seat belt, my riding helmet, the deadbolt on my front door, the oxygen mask in a passenger jet, the smoke detectors in my home, etc. etc. ad infinitum.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
37065 posts
Posted on 12/28/18 at 7:32 am to
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Which is why you've spent a full day in a 13 page thread arguing about it.

Regardless of the subject I'm interested in hearing perspectives that differ from my own. I feel like that's how we learn and become better people.

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It has been pointed out multiple times that taking preventative measures against unlikely catastrophes is something everyone does nearly every day. You're just triggered because you don't like guns.

I've been called triggered and emotional a few times in this thread, I think that's pretty funny. I'm far from either. I guess that's the NPC response when someone's opinion differs from your own.
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I also have never needed my seat belt, my riding helmet, the deadbolt on my front door, the oxygen mask in a passenger jet, the smoke detectors in my home, etc. etc. ad infinitum.

None of these other preventative measures have the potential to deal damage to you or your family.

Posted by DeafJam73
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
19122 posts
Posted on 12/28/18 at 7:37 am to
There are a lot of jackasses that should not have guns. I will give you that. But, having a gun for protection is perfectly fine and in my opinion, a good thing to have. Chances are I will never need mine. Good. I hope I never do. But if I have to, I will absolutely shoot to kill. It’s something no one wants to use, but it’s there if you need it. My kids will learn about gun safety and learn early. That way, they will have been exposed, know its dangers and won’t have that dangerous urge of curiosity to go look for it. It’s all about personal responsibiltiy and accountability.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
37065 posts
Posted on 12/28/18 at 7:41 am to
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There are a lot of jackasses that should not have guns. I will give you that. But, having a gun for protection is perfectly fine and in my opinion, a good thing to have. Chances are I will never need mine. Good. I hope I never do. But if I have to, I will absolutely shoot to kill. It’s something no one wants to use, but it’s there if you need it. My kids will learn about gun safety and learn early. That way, they will have been exposed, know its dangers and won’t have that dangerous urge of curiosity to go look for it. It’s all about personal responsibiltiy and accountability.

I can definitely respect that.

I'm done with this thread, it was exhausting but helped kill a slow work day yesterday
Posted by CptRusty
Basket of Deplorables
Member since Aug 2011
11740 posts
Posted on 12/28/18 at 7:41 am to
Amazing how after getting your arse handed to you for 13 pages you go from this:

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I don't carry, or own a gun. I also don't live my life scared of what could possibly happen to me.


to this:

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Regardless of the subject I'm interested in hearing perspectives that differ from my own. I feel like that's how we learn and become better people.


Posted by DeafJam73
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
19122 posts
Posted on 12/28/18 at 7:44 am to
Just remember, violence happens fast, without warning and unexpectedly. I don’t see it as living in fear. I will be ready if the situation ever calls for it. I don’t live in fear because I can respond.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
37065 posts
Posted on 12/28/18 at 7:47 am to
Because I went from generally fricking around and trolling (albeit using my real opinion, but in an inflammatory manner that I knew would draw ire) to attempting to have a real conversation on the subject with my opinions on the matter. Obviously the "don't live my life scared" was going to strike a nerve with people here.

Anyway, like I said I'm out.

ETA: this "getting your arse handed to you for 13 pages" is also cute
This post was edited on 12/28/18 at 7:49 am
Posted by CptRusty
Basket of Deplorables
Member since Aug 2011
11740 posts
Posted on 12/28/18 at 7:52 am to
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ETA: this "getting your arse handed to you for 13 pages" is also cute


Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
138931 posts
Posted on 12/28/18 at 8:35 am to
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Most of the people I know that carry 24/7 are no different than the Harley owners dressed to the nines in leather with their SOA starter kit.

Oh, ok. I'll change my opinion due to your anecdotal evidence. Thanks.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
138931 posts
Posted on 12/28/18 at 8:40 am to
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None of these other preventative measures have the potential to deal damage to you or your family. 


They all do
Posted by Kcprogguitar
Kansas City
Member since Oct 2014
940 posts
Posted on 12/28/18 at 9:36 am to
I’ll be honest here. I support CCH, but really, most of the people I know with one talk about guns all the time. If it’s not that big a deal then just shut up about it .

The other is, no one carries a gun into my house, ever. I’ve had some rather heated arguments ( on their end, I just keep saying , No) with friends or husbands of the wife’s friends. It’s pretty simple, I provide the security in my home, if that’s not good enough for you then you’re free to go.

That’s why LEO’s aren’t allowed in my home as well ( which is a good idea anyway).
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58521 posts
Posted on 12/28/18 at 9:44 am to
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A Pessimistic View Of Life/Humanity?

It is a view of reality. People in general are animals and look out for number 1.
This post was edited on 12/28/18 at 9:45 am
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58521 posts
Posted on 12/28/18 at 9:47 am to
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The other is, no one carries a gun into my house, ever. I’ve had some rather heated arguments ( on their end, I just keep saying , No) with friends or husbands of the wife’s friends. It’s pretty simple, I provide the security in my home, if that’s not good enough for you then you’re free to go.

you sound like a douche. you provide security? Well without meeting you, i know it isnt good enough. I hope your ex friends found a new friend beaus you suck.
Posted by GrammarKnotsi
Member since Feb 2013
10152 posts
Posted on 12/28/18 at 9:52 am to
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I provide the security in my home, if that’s not good enough for you then you’re free to go.





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That’s why LEO’s aren’t allowed in my home as well ( which is a good idea anyway).





you seal up the argument that some people just carry to talk about it
Posted by LordSnow
Your Mom's House
Member since May 2011
6080 posts
Posted on 12/28/18 at 9:56 am to
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The other is, no one carries a gun into my house, ever.


How would you know? Concealed is just that.

I carry just about everywhere I go. I don't talk about it with others. You could be sitting at a light when someone tries to carjack you.
You don't know when you'll need it. If you did, you wouldn't go there.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58521 posts
Posted on 12/28/18 at 10:04 am to
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How would you know? Concealed is just that.

by law, if you are entering the dwelling or vehicle owned by some one else, you have to ask permission. This does not apply to businesses.

The explanation i have been told is that if you are in a vehicle or dwelling and a LEO comes and asks the owner if there are any weapons he should be aware about, the owner should know about yours.
This post was edited on 12/28/18 at 10:05 am
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58521 posts
Posted on 12/28/18 at 10:05 am to
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you seal up the argument that some people just carry to talk about it
he is a black pot and he doesnt even know it.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
138931 posts
Posted on 12/28/18 at 10:41 am to
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’ll be honest here. I support CCH, but really, most of the people I know with one talk about guns all the time. If it’s not that big a deal then just shut up about it .

You're upset that they have a hobby? Odd.
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The other is, no one carries a gun into my house, ever.

Ok?
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That’s why LEO’s aren’t allowed in my home as well ( which is a good idea anyway).

Ok?
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