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Is Charity Hospital simply too large for any logical, successful redevelopment?
Posted on 7/30/18 at 10:12 am
Posted on 7/30/18 at 10:12 am
It is a landmark, but is demolition the only real future for the property?
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Posted on 7/30/18 at 10:13 am to GetCocky11
It has offices in it for lsuhse
Posted on 7/30/18 at 10:15 am to GetCocky11
Problem is it's full of asbestos... It's going to cost a shite ton for the abatement...
I don't think they can because it's on the National Historic register...
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but is demolition the only real future for the property?
I don't think they can because it's on the National Historic register...
This post was edited on 7/30/18 at 3:43 pm
Posted on 7/30/18 at 10:15 am to GetCocky11
Lots of concrete in that complex. I don't know how much flexibility that's going to give a developer.
On the other hand I wouldn't want to be responsible for taking down that mountain.
On the other hand I wouldn't want to be responsible for taking down that mountain.
Posted on 7/30/18 at 10:16 am to GetCocky11
It’s 20 stories. It seems that all these buildings are turned into are hotels and condos. That would be a lot of units. Not saying it can’t be done but the size and scope of renovation needed will be a challenge
Posted on 7/30/18 at 10:16 am to GetCocky11
They struggled for hours to take down the Lee Statue.
Imagine taking that thing down.
Imagine taking that thing down.
Posted on 7/30/18 at 10:17 am to GetCocky11
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too large for any logical, successful redevelopment
in the current (or foreseeable future) Nola real estate climate.
Additionally, the building isn't built right to be a modern hospital anymore.
Floor to floor height is too shallow for above-ceiling systems
columns are too close together to allow code-required clearances in patient rooms, diagnostic labs, and ORs.
Envelope leaks = black mold issues.
Decades of lead paint under decades of acrylic paint.
Asbestos, asbestos, asbestos.
ETA: Wrong part of town for a hotel use. Nola already has about a million SF of leasable office space on the market all over town.
This post was edited on 7/30/18 at 10:19 am
Posted on 7/30/18 at 10:19 am to GetCocky11
It's like the New Orleans version of the elephants foot in Chernobyl.
Posted on 7/30/18 at 10:19 am to Duckhammer_77
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Additionally, the building isn't built right to be a modern hospital anymore.
Correct, and all these "Save Carity" morons don't realize this...
My Uncle was the chief engineer there for over 30 years... He basically knew every nook and cranny of that building.. He said it was completely outdated, way before Katrina...
They can do something else with it, but it will never be a hospital again,...
This post was edited on 7/30/18 at 10:25 am
Posted on 7/30/18 at 10:23 am to Hangover Haven
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Correct, and all these "Save Carity" morons don't realize this...
I think Charity would be easier to let go of for the "Save" crowd if the entire story behind its closure and eventual replacement didn't completely stink.
Posted on 7/30/18 at 10:24 am to GetCocky11
The city would never demolish that building. They’ll let it sit and rot for decades.
Posted on 7/30/18 at 10:25 am to Hangover Haven
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. He said it is completely outdated, way before Katrina...
A hospital built in 1939 was outdated? That's some great insider info you have
Posted on 7/30/18 at 10:26 am to GetCocky11
This. I actually liked the idea of renovating it to turn it into a “new” city hall. The current city hall could be repurposed much easier.
Posted on 7/30/18 at 10:27 am to kingbob
Does City Hall need something that big?
Posted on 7/30/18 at 10:28 am to fightin tigers
No they should just put it back at gallier hall
Posted on 7/30/18 at 10:29 am to LNCHBOX
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A hospital built in 1939 was outdated? That's some great insider info you have
Intersting, I work for Touro, the original building is over 150 years old, but it's updated... They still have gas lines out of the walls in some areas that had laterns for light.
The state failed to sink money into Charity to keep up with the times....
So you know what you can do with your snarky comment...
This post was edited on 7/30/18 at 10:31 am
Posted on 7/30/18 at 10:30 am to Hangover Haven
my FIL & MIL went to med school there in the 70s and they say it was a shite hole back then.
If the city leadership had any foresight or common sense (stop laughing, I have a point), they would have demo'ed the whole thing and built a chilled water plant. Then lease the chilled water to the VA and everyone else around them that is building.
If the city leadership had any foresight or common sense (stop laughing, I have a point), they would have demo'ed the whole thing and built a chilled water plant. Then lease the chilled water to the VA and everyone else around them that is building.
Posted on 7/30/18 at 10:32 am to Hangover Haven
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Intersting, I work for Touro, the original building is over 150 years old, but it's updated... They still have gas lines out of the walls in some areas that had laterns for light.
The original touro building that is 150 years old is gone. Has been replaced by all the patchwork renovations. It is still on the same site though.
Charity is virtually one huge building built all at once.
This post was edited on 7/30/18 at 10:33 am
Posted on 7/30/18 at 10:33 am to Duckhammer_77
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If the city leadership had any foresight or common sense (stop laughing, I have a point), they would have demo'ed the whole thing and built a chilled water plant. Then lease the chilled water to the VA and everyone else around them that is building.
Stop, you're making too much sense.
This post was edited on 7/30/18 at 10:33 am
Posted on 7/30/18 at 10:33 am to Duckhammer_77
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If the city leadership had any foresight or common sense (stop laughing, I have a point), they would have demo'ed the whole thing and built a chilled water plant. Then lease the chilled water to the VA and everyone else around them that is building.
It's owned by the state, and I don't think they can demolish it because of the Historic Register...
But that makes perfect sense..
This post was edited on 7/30/18 at 10:34 am
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