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re: Is autism the new ADHD?

Posted on 4/13/18 at 7:43 am to
Posted by drunkenpunkin
Louisiana
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Posted on 4/13/18 at 7:43 am to
I have 2 autistic sons. High functioning but not without issues. They were diagnosed 12 years ago though before it was cool. And I can say yes, without a doubt, it is overdiagnosed. I used to work with these families, and I can't tell you how many kids came in whose parents pushed for a diagnosis. The moms preferred to have a child on the spectrum than a child who is a mediocre or poor student or just plain weird. Being weird is not pathological. But, nowadays it will get you a diagnosis easy. Of course, this isn't always the case. Autism exists and is incredibly difficult to deal with. We had issues last night with my 17 year old. It doesn't go away. Just changes over time. So, you're kind of correct, but it's unfair to lump everyine together. I will say I stopped working with these families and changed my work completely because the new parents were draining and miserable. The focus of my life is having the most normal life possible for my kids and myself. But a lot of these parents want the opposite. The most special life possible. I just got tired of it. I avoid all autism related social media posts now. I volunteer for nothing and am a much happier person for it.
Posted by DawgGONIT
Member since May 2015
2961 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 7:44 am to
Just another quick buck for the Drs and Big Pharm. Over prescribe and diagnose kids and the only way to make them 'right/normal' is to have them take their prescription pills every day for the rest of their lives. Not to mention that mostly they are giving these powerful medications to growing kids with developing brains and then wonder why they are fricked up when they are adults.
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
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58383 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 7:47 am to
How come only white kids get autism?
Posted by SECdragonmaster
Order of the Dragons
Member since Dec 2013
17295 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 7:50 am to
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ETA: are you a clinician or parent or patient?


Private practice Child/Adolescent/Adult Psychiatrist for about 20 years. A large % of my practice is severe autism spectrum disorders.
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
30223 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 7:52 am to
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LSUZombie


So happy when people talk about things they know nothing about.

Thanks!
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
30223 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 7:53 am to
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Some of the women on my Facebook are more than happy to shout loud and proud that their kid is "on the spectrum"


Get off facebook, fig.

Ban me. I don't care. This message board is shite anyway.
This post was edited on 4/13/18 at 7:55 am
Posted by KG6
Member since Aug 2009
10920 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 7:54 am to
I don't believe he's insinuating that autism doesn't exist or isn't real. Just like ADD/ADHD is a real thing. It's just that when you do apply the spectrum aspect to anything, people tend to latch on, so I guess the OP thinks that is happening here.

Not saying I believe people do that with autism. Seems like too big of a jump to brand your kid with that if not necessary. I've never once met someone who I was told had autism "but just a little". So I don't see how this is anything to worry about.

Posted by drunkenpunkin
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2011
7662 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 8:00 am to
Also, I will say, it can be a very isolating experience for parents. When they're little and the only place you ever go is to therapy and doctors, and the only people you ever see besides therapists and doctors are other parents in the same boat, it's a very lonely life. It's not like you can set up play dates and develop normal friendships. You're just trying to get through a lot of days. So social media becomes an outlet for those feelings of isolation. It's how you stay connected to the real world. But you don't have a lot to share other than autism related stuff. Not only that, but there is a sort of grief involved, and it takes time to process. Not like you have time to go to therapy for yourself, so you reach out via social media. While I choose not to surround myself with this now that my kids are older and I have had time to process, I absolutely was one of those moms when they were younger, and I get it.
Posted by Gaston
Dirty Coast
Member since Aug 2008
41694 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 8:22 am to
We chose not to diagnose our child...one, because he seems mostly happy, and two because we don't live in a place where treatment is accessible easily. We held him back after preK 4 and basically just deal with it on our own. Without my wife he'd be a shell of himself...but she knows how to get across to him (positive she struggled with similar things and is very successful now). She makes nothing a surprise, always prewarns about time or social situations, lets him be loud when she dries his hair, bought him a drum kit (so strange that someone so sensitive to loud sounds likes making them).

He struggles with conduct on some days, he'll lose a whole letter grade for one day...across multiple classrooms. His speech isn't great, but mostly he just doesn't catagorize what people say to him with graded importance. He'll respond to 'a train is about to hit you, step this way' with the same slowness as 'come check out this flower.'

We keep him away from trains.
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
68469 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 8:25 am to

We had the amniocentesis done during pregnancy. Got the all clear for no autism.
Posted by Morty
Member since Feb 2018
2252 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 8:41 am to
I know a couple who has taxpayers pay for play therapy for their son because he has sensory processing disorder. WTF? How many other disorders are they going to come up with?
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43031 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 8:42 am to
I'm not sure about the specifics, but having dealt with it for 17 years, is your one son better able to cope with everyday things much better than when he was younger?
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 4/13/18 at 8:47 am to
How do you separate “seeking attention” & trying to bring awareness?
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
37668 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 8:50 am to
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What about the case of my daughter who was born just a little over 1 pound. Stayed in the NICU for 115 days and stayed on oxygen and a heart monitor for exactly 1 year. Who is 4 now and non verbal and diagnosed with Autism. Who we take to NUMEROUS therapies and doctors visits and Pay enough copay’s and doctor bills to put a couple kids thru college. Who also has a food aversion from tubes being down her throat for nearly 4 months, so we have to purchase pedisure every pay period to help her maintain weight.

I need to just tell my wife that nothings wrong. Our daughter doesn’t have anything wrong with her... we are simply making excuses for her behavior.

You and the op and go frick yourself.



well then obviously you would not be someone who is just making an excuse or using autism as a badge of honor, would you?

You do sound like you have some issues from your experience. Might want to see a therapist to get some help.
Posted by LSUZombie
A Cemetery Near You
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 4/13/18 at 8:50 am to
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Get off facebook, fig.

Ban me. I don't care. This message board is shite anyway.



Posted by S
RIP Wayde
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Posted on 4/13/18 at 8:54 am to
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Thank you for your service.


Posted by lowhound
Effie
Member since Aug 2014
9517 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 9:01 am to
Most people that do have kids on "the spectrum" aren't going to advertise it, and there's not much discipline or parenting that can prevent that sort of thing. Maybe more parents and doctors are realizing that not every kid is ADHD and needs to be drugged to regulate it. So the same average of actual cases, just better screening and diagnosis. Someone that has a child that's a proprioceptive seeker needs to find other ways to help them regulate their impulses besides drugs, like weighted blankets on the bed, sounds, or high impact activities. If my kid behaves better because he's constantly fidgeting, humming a tune or whistling, I let him do it if it's not disrupting anything rather than just get aggravated about it and stop him. Obviously this is a problem in school or in a restaurant for example, so OT's help him find other ways to settle down so he can be respectful to others. This isn't something that just goes away with good parenting, but good parenting can help him control his behavior and let him know the boundaries without having to beat him to a pulp or drug him into a coma. For example, putting my kid in a corner for 5 minutes makes my kid's behavior worse, but making him do 20 pushups or carry a heavy object around for a minute or so helps out tremendously. I'd rather turn my kid into a stud linebacker than drug him with adderall so that he doesn't get into trouble in school for putting his hands on another kid. I'm glad we had a pediatrician that was competent enough to properly screen him and refer us to an OT that could test him and help us with it. That's what good parenting is, not punishing him all the time or faking it on Facebook.
This post was edited on 4/13/18 at 9:29 am
Posted by Muthsera
Member since Jun 2017
7319 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 9:02 am to
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Americans have developed an odd obsession with having some form of mental thing.


We have made life too good and too easy, at least for white people. The human brain and psyche needs problems to solve, tasks to perform, struggles to overcome.

Teenagers now report higher levels of stress than ever before. Why? Because of fricking standardized tests and Instagram likes. Are you fricking kidding me? Having panic attacks in the middle of third period because of your homework when 70 years ago people your age were getting married, having kids, and getting shipped thousands of miles away to have their heads blown off in war.

I refuse to exalt previous generations or demean current or future ones. There has to be an answer, and I truly believe that it is idleness and ennui combined with tech advances. If all your needs and wants are taken care of, you have nothing left to worry about but the tiniest of problems and will seek out a rationalization for such problems. Not the case with autism, but certainly the widespread claims of depression, anxiety, ptsd, social anxiety, and fibro.
Posted by LeroyBrown
South Side Of Chicago
Member since Jul 2017
576 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 9:02 am to
My ex girlfriend is convinced that I have Aspergers, which is part of the spectrum. But, she is crazy.
Posted by CWS91
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2005
1155 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 10:55 am to
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From a parent who has a Autistic child, you are a fool. Please STFU and stick to talking about something you have at least know one sliver of knowledge about


I don't have enough upvotes for this.
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