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re: Investigators When they KNEW Murdaugh lied (Page 112)
Posted on 3/3/23 at 10:21 am to Gorilla Ball
Posted on 3/3/23 at 10:21 am to Gorilla Ball
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I just don’t know if I can look at those images
I will say this. As bad as those photos were to view, if you couple those with the kennel video, I can easily see how they had a verdict in 45 min.
45 min per the juror interview this morning on GMA. I guess they just waited around for another 2 hours so it didnt seem "too quick".
Posted on 3/3/23 at 10:26 am to Beef Tips
I just don’t see how a human being can shoot or kill anyone fellow human unless it’s self defense
Posted on 3/3/23 at 10:28 am to Beef Tips
Quick question (coming from someone who has only watched the Netflix doc and Dateline):
Was it ever talked about if there was possibly a second shooter? It was just odd to me that the kid was shot with a shotgun and then the wife a AR(?).
I don't see why someone would bring/use two different guns. So you shoot someone with a shotgun, then you put that down and use a different gun to shoot the next person.
In my head, if you have an AR, it's easier to just use that on both over switching weapons. Just in the back of my head I was like I bet there was a shooter for each person.
Sorry if this was something that has been talked about a lot.
Was it ever talked about if there was possibly a second shooter? It was just odd to me that the kid was shot with a shotgun and then the wife a AR(?).
I don't see why someone would bring/use two different guns. So you shoot someone with a shotgun, then you put that down and use a different gun to shoot the next person.
In my head, if you have an AR, it's easier to just use that on both over switching weapons. Just in the back of my head I was like I bet there was a shooter for each person.
Sorry if this was something that has been talked about a lot.

Posted on 3/3/23 at 10:29 am to John88
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Oh god, I say not to search but I’ll end up doing it. Feel like I’m desensitized at this point .
Good luck finding them. I think all but one of Maggie has been taken down.
Posted on 3/3/23 at 10:29 am to Beef Tips
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Friend linked me to them earlier. Gruesome. Couldnt imagine looking at those as a juror on fullscreen.
Someone posted it on Twitter last night. It’s just one from Paul and Maggie that was seen on the computer monitor right?
Posted on 3/3/23 at 10:31 am to iwyLSUiwy
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don't see why someone would bring/use two different guns.
To convince a jury that there was 2 shooters, and argue you couldn't have done it.
Alex planned every detail out. He just had no idea that PauPau had used his phone to video just before he was killed, and it revealed that ole Alex wasn't napping, but was actually there.
Posted on 3/3/23 at 10:32 am to iwyLSUiwy
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I don't see why someone would bring/use two different guns. So you shoot someone with a shotgun, then you put that down and use a different gun to shoot the next person.
There was no credible evidence presented for 2 shooters.
Alex used 2 guns to create the narrative that it was 2 shooters. This was no mistake. All part of his planning.
Posted on 3/3/23 at 10:35 am to CobraCommander83
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Someone posted it on Twitter last night. It’s just one from Paul and Maggie that was seen on the computer monitor right?
I was linked to the photos from one of my "provocative" friends. It was from 4chan. I will not link in here.
It appeared they were from the monitors.
Posted on 3/3/23 at 10:37 am to Beef Tips
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I was linked to the photos from one of my "provocative" friends. It was from 4chan. I will not link in here. It appeared they were from the monitors.
The dumbass I saw on twitter still has it in his feed. Pretty much said that since it was captured on live TV it is fair game.
Posted on 3/3/23 at 10:40 am to Beef Tips
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To convince a jury that there was 2 shooters, and argue you couldn't have done it.
Alex planned every detail out.
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Alex used 2 guns to create the narrative that it was 2 shooters. This was no mistake. All part of his planning.
Easy enough explanation.
I think he did it, but just playing devils advocate again and showing my limited knowledge, but...
Weren't they killed relatively close to each other? I think how could someone shoot someone with a shotgun at close range, then pop the wife so close by with a different gun. Seems like it would take a little bit of time and would give the wife time to run a bit while he's making the switch.
I mean I guess he could have had the AR on a sling around his back, then drop the shotgun and fire the next round off quickly.
Again, I think he did it, I'm just saying the one thing that I thought was pretty odd. I'm a hunter/gun collector so these are the things that stick out to me

Posted on 3/3/23 at 10:44 am to KosmoCramer
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I remember that for the roadside shooting, but not the financials.
I remember you making a clown of yourself in this thread.
Posted on 3/3/23 at 10:46 am to iwyLSUiwy
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Weren't they killed relatively close to each other?
I think they said 30 yards apart.
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I think how could someone shoot someone with a shotgun at close range, then pop the wife so close by with a different gun. Seems like it would take a little bit of time and would give the wife time to run a bit while he's making the switch.
He popped Paul at the door at the pen with 2 shots. Maggie was 30 yards away. It's argued she was coming to the aid of her son. Alex simply dropped the shotgun, grabbed the AR, and shot her as she came towards him. Once she was down, he got up, walked up to her, and shot her twice at close range to make sure she was dead.
Some keep saying she would be running away. It's the opposite. She was running toward her baby to help him.
Posted on 3/3/23 at 10:46 am to iwyLSUiwy
Maggie may not have been looking or possibly distracted by the dog Bubba. She was startled by the shotgun blast and turned toward Paul/Alex go see what happened. By this time she realizes what is going on, and she is now facing Alex pointing the rifle at her.
After watching the trial, I believe this to be exactly what happened.
After watching the trial, I believe this to be exactly what happened.
Posted on 3/3/23 at 10:46 am to iwyLSUiwy
Alex Murdaugh was pretty manipulative and liked to create a lot of “confusion” in his cover ups….I’d assume he had two guns to try to make it look like there were two shooters.
I think Maggie was running away, probably why he used the AR 15 on her.
I think Maggie was running away, probably why he used the AR 15 on her.
Posted on 3/3/23 at 10:46 am to iwyLSUiwy
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Seems like it would take a little bit of time and would give the wife time to run a bit while he's making the switch.
Her body was 30 yards from Paul's. Alex had time to make the switch.
Posted on 3/3/23 at 10:51 am to Havoc
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What the frick ever I guess your constant wishcasting of evidence didn’t work out very well.
It almost felt like at times kosmocramer was a close family member of Alex Murdaugh with the way he dismissed obvious truths.
Posted on 3/3/23 at 10:51 am to ILurkThereforeIAm
quote:There are strange set in stone sides to this case. Some think AM is innocent, and the LE/State/court is out to get the Murdough's, some ignorantly got political, some think AM is a crook but defend him strongly regarding not being a murderer.
The Judge went at it from all angles too. He gave him every opportunity to come clean and tried to engage him by complimenting him, challenging him to be the first defendant to explain his actions at sentencing, by bringing up Maggie and Paul haunting him every night. And still, he got nothing. Dude is in denial and is NOT sorry.
Some post like they are Buster.
Some on social media have called out the Judge for the rare emotions he has shown in thinking AM is guilty...

Before anyone gets in a huff one way or another. I think the Judge was this way because of this...

When the Judge said this. I thought he was going to lead towards sentencing to a mentally insane type of jail, especially regarding PM being another person...

But it seems in legal terms one is not considered mentally insane if the cause is addiction?
The noise about the accidental pic of Maggie's autopsy pic shown on a computer screen in court and the jurors shown on camera last night- is sad. But it will go away as people move on in the news cycle.
Not all jurors want to make money to go on Good Morning America et al...
I saw a Murdaugh Family history timeline slideshow last night. It really shows the corruption with John Marvin maybe being the cleanest one. Lynn the sister is said to be the Murdaugh boys mother figure.
So she thinks her shite doesn't stink at the very least.
This post was edited on 3/3/23 at 10:53 am
Posted on 3/3/23 at 10:53 am to iwyLSUiwy
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Weren't they killed relatively close to each other? I think how could someone shoot someone with a shotgun at close range, then pop the wife so close by with a different gun. Seems like it would take a little bit of time and would give the wife time to run a bit while he's making the switch.
Maggie was running toward her son. It appears Paul was confronted and shot in the chest in the room. The shooter, thinking Paul is dead, then goes down to grab the AR leaning up outside of the room to shoot Maggie, but Paul stumbles out of the feed room and the shooter, while crouching down to get the AR, quickly unloads a shot to Paul’s head. The shooter then confronts Maggie who was running toward her child, shoots her twice the the middle to middle lower part of her body. These shots brought Maggie’s to her knees and eventually on all fours. The shooter circled her and shoots her from behind (this explains the shot that when through her chest and into her head. Then, the shooter continues to circle around her and shoots her in the head.
The phone situation was likely a mistake. Maggie most likely left her phone in the golf cart. When the shooter got on the golf cart to leave it was realized the phone was there and had to be discarded.. That is my only plausible explanation for why the phone was taken (risking additional data to be collected to assist SLED) and the steps on her phone did not match up with Alex’s steps on his phone.
This post was edited on 3/3/23 at 11:17 am
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