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Indonesia to Offer to Buy $10 Billion of Additional U.S. Energy Goods

Posted on 4/15/25 at 12:27 pm
Posted by ragincajun03
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Posted on 4/15/25 at 12:27 pm
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As Indonesia seeks to negotiate a reduction of a planned tariff of 32% on Indonesian goods sold in the United States, the government of Southeast Asia’s biggest economy will offer to buy an additional $10 billion worth of American oil and liquefied petroleum gas (LPG).

Indonesia was slapped with one of the highest tariffs - 32% - in the “liberation day” tariffs announced by U.S. President Donald Trump. These tariffs were suspended last week for 90 days, during which the Trump Administration expects most countries to come pleading their cases and promising to boost their imports of U.S. goods to avoid high tariffs.

Indonesia’s Energy Ministry has recommended an increase in the import quota for U.S. LPG and higher imports of U.S. crude oil, Energy Minister Bahlil Lahadalia told local media on Tuesday.

With the offer of $10 billion more U.S. energy imports, Indonesia plans to buy total U.S. goods worth between $18 billion and $19 billion to eliminate its trade surplus with America.


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Indonesia is just one of the countries looking to buy their way out of steep tariffs with deals to purchase American energy products.

South Asian nation Pakistan is actively considering the idea of importing U.S. crude oil for the first time to seek a reduction of its trade surplus with America.

South Korea is reportedly looking at more LNG imports to get Washington to drop the tariffs, while India is weighing the option to scrap its import tax on American liquefied natural gas to increase U.S. LNG imports and reduce its trade surplus with the United States.


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Posted by TDsngumbo
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 4/15/25 at 12:46 pm to
And just like that, America begins a comeback.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 4/15/25 at 12:48 pm to
Do these countries have tariffs on US goods?

The reason I ask, if they do, is full removal of tariffs part of the negotiations?

If not, what’s the point? If they don’t want us to place tariffs, they should remove their own.
This post was edited on 4/15/25 at 1:49 pm
Posted by tigersmanager
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 4/15/25 at 12:50 pm to
Good for us
Posted by ElderTiger
Planet Earth
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Posted on 4/15/25 at 12:52 pm to
MAGA
Posted by Artificial Ignorance
Member since Feb 2025
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Posted on 4/15/25 at 1:15 pm to
One of you import / export / customs experts, please help me understand how this works.

Core question: “US Energy Goods” ownership and control in tariff transactions.



Int’l based Major Oil Co with US assets produces tanker full of crude oil

Int’l based Major Oil CO’s trading company sells / buys contracts (paper) on crude (physical crude in this tanker may be traded multiple times before it finally offloads at final destination).

So, how does “buying from US” take place when U.S. does not own this crude. What is the control on point A (US) to point B (Indonesia) in this crude / tariff transaction.


Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 4/15/25 at 1:24 pm to
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TDsngumbo
And just like that, America begins a comeback.


The comeback will be made when we start saying no to these requests.

We havent squeezed nearly enough out of the world yet.

We can get more.
Posted by Upperdecker
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Posted on 4/15/25 at 1:37 pm to
BUT DRUMPF BAD
Posted by triggeredmillennial
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Posted on 4/15/25 at 1:58 pm to
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Posted by SpotCheckBilly
Member since May 2020
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Posted on 4/15/25 at 1:59 pm to
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A whole 10 billion. So 0.003 percent of our GDP.

Great! When is the party. 333 more deals like this and we will have 1 percent of our gdp covered


You chose a good name.
Posted by triggeredmillennial
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Posted on 4/15/25 at 2:36 pm to
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Posted by Chucktown_Badger
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Member since May 2013
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Posted on 4/15/25 at 3:17 pm to
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A whole 10 billion. So 0.003 percent of our GDP.


Don't think about it as a percent of our GDP, think about it as a percentage of the trade deficit with Indonesia. And then determine if these tariffs are doing the job they were intended to do.
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
29243 posts
Posted on 4/15/25 at 3:32 pm to
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Don't think about it as a percent of our GDP, think about it as a percentage of the trade deficit with Indonesia.


This. Indonesia is a small part of our trade deficit, so of course their part in buying American energy (oil, LNG, gasoline too?) is going to be small.

President Trump is calling for a $350 Billion commitment from the EU, in comparison.
Posted by cadillacattack
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Posted on 4/15/25 at 8:11 pm to
Posted by Beessnax
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 4/15/25 at 8:21 pm to
Not even mentioning how much better royalty checks are for landowners in the Haynesville since Trump took office and prices doubled. One company has drilled 2 wells and didn't complete them for a year until the inauguration.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 4/15/25 at 8:23 pm to
While this is good, wouldn’t this hurt every other sector of our economy if we drop tariffs and they only buy energy? Sure it’s a boom for O&G but all other sectors would suffer
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
89828 posts
Posted on 4/15/25 at 8:27 pm to
A country or a company in that country will get a contract with an LNG exporter from the us.

We then ship it there.


In Louisiana we have Sabine pass.


It gets liquified there then goes to another countries import terminal. It then gets turned back to gas and goes to like a utility company or whoever is buying it.



This post was edited on 4/15/25 at 8:28 pm
Posted by BHTiger
Charleston
Member since Dec 2017
9273 posts
Posted on 4/15/25 at 8:56 pm to
quote:

A whole 10 billion. So 0.003 percent of our GDP.

Great! When is the party. 333 more deals like this and we will have 1 percent of our gdp covered


INDONESIA, you aren't talking about the EU in spending.
Posted by Quantum Physics
Member since Apr 2025
8 posts
Posted on 4/15/25 at 8:58 pm to
deltaland

While this is good, wouldn’t this hurt every other sector of our economy if we drop tariffs and they only buy energy? Sure it’s a boom for O&G but all other sectors would suffer
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No, at worst it would just add jo US exports with no change as before the tariffs. Trump and his team are looking for removal of trade barriers, while also looking for more US imports from foreign countries to even out the trade deficits.

Even if the US only gets the trade reciprocity from all countries, then the US would grow at 10% nominal gdp per year, while lowering our debt to gdp ratio by 4% per year

There wouldn't be a negative, just not as good as the Trump team set out to do, yet still great compared to current times.
Posted by 6R12
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2005
11979 posts
Posted on 4/15/25 at 9:59 pm to
Winning. I like it. And all the snow flakes that couldn't wait 5 mins to let this stuff start to work out some.
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