re: In hindsight was it a mistake for the US to ally with the Soviet Union during WW2.

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. should the us have just let Germany and Soviets fight each other

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This is pretty much exactly how it played out. We provided goods and supplies but they had pretty much massacred each other to the max before we sent troops over in large numbers. Russia had already started pushing the Germans out as well.

So unless your take is that we should have allied with Germany then the result was going to eventually be the same.

I said relatively. I'll see your Stalingrad and raise you Lviv, Odesa, Sevastopol, Kyiv x 2, Kharkiv x 3...

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We should totally have let Nazi Germany invade and occupy most of Europe.

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We did allow that

No, the Allies had no intention of letting the war drag on. The death toll was already biblical. And I think some feared that the Germans were closing in on an atomic weapon. Had that actually come into fruition, that could have changed the war drastically.

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Anyone who thinks the Red Army would have just lain down and taken is a window licking einsteen. They had just fought back one of the best fighting forces in history, paying DEARLY for ever inch. They might have been more fanatical against the US had we betrayed them.

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Fanaticism only carries the will to fight so far when you can’t feed and supply your men. Had the US turned its forces to taking on the Soviet Union, they would have certainly won militarily. They had air superiority and a hardened and skilled fighting force along with a seemingly unlimited armor corp. It would have been hard fighting, certainly. The USSR had the numbers to throw at us at least, but without our logistical support, they would have run out of resources quickly. But there was still heavy fighting in the Pacific, and America’s desire to fight was getting exhausted with the increasing loss of life. Yeah, throw in the Pacific fleet with the Marines, and you can smash the USSR from two fronts, but to ask the fighting men of the Allied forces along with their families who have already paid heavily to continue to fight is a huge ask.

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Patton said we need to keep going through Berlin to Moscow…

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Easy to say when it's not your sons on the frontlines of the slaughter.

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Patton’s son joined up in 1942. And while he didn’t see action in WWII (which he would have if the war had not ended), he did fight in both Korea and Vietnam, being decorated for valor on numerous occasions.


George Patton IV

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We were fighting Hitler. Literally Hitler.

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Stalin was worse

As a previous poster said - Patton was right

The Soviet Union lost 27,0OO,000 people, most of whom were Ukrainian and Belarusian. Unscathed is a bit hyperbolic, but Russia does take credit for a lot of suffering that was done by other people.

FDR’s post-war plans were concentrated on eliminating the British Empire. The Soviet threat was largely ignored.

He used American might to play Churchill and Stalin against one another, but both had a much clearer vision of the post-war world than FDR.

I was talking about people who throw out the "we should have kept marching on Moscow" crowd.
Which, at times, I've been in.

But that just denies the reality on the ground at the time with the benefit of hindsight.