re: If you're afraid for your life at a restaurant, do you stop to pay the tab?

Not wanting to eat at a place because a guy has a rifle strapped to his back isn't a problem. Not paying is a problem.

Another question for this. Do you call the police as soon as you walk out of the restaurant. I do get that you have to be cautious in general, so I don't expect someone to be murdered while waiting for the waitress to bring them their change. But if you have that fear, you should be calling the cops immediately. Then at that point, do you skip out and not give a police statement?

If you leave and don't call the cops, you are just trying to get out of a bill (either as a thief or someone who thinks their beliefs entitles them to steal, which is still a thief). Because you obviously don't think it's that dangerous and don't care for the lives of the other patrons in the restaurant.

i distinctly remember a story about people carrying rifles around town in oregon to "educate" strangers, so it isn't just in texas for this particular law. regardless, did any lawmakers credit the restaurant open carry protest with influencing their decision?

It certainly pushed them to act. Diehard CCWers should think a bit harder rather than reduce themselves to the same level as gun-control advocates.

I can be 100% for open carry and still think open carry people are generally attention whoring douchebags

Open carry makes me nervous a shtt. Guns should be taken away from civilians.

so you don't know, you think it helped. i think it hurt more than it helped, and neither of us can prove who's right.

what puts diehard ccwers on the same level as gun control people? i can say that it is irresponsible to use guns as props while supporting the right to open carry.

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So what your saying is that you have to argue points against sensationalism and exaggeration? Long rifle open carry may be a very rare occurrence, but it's not something 99.999999% of the population would ever see.

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The article cited encourages people to steal from establishments that allow people to carry AR's based on feigned fear of an attack in order to get them to change their policies instead of doing it the right way and just not frequenting establishments that have policies with which they disagree.

I thought that some were arguing that a person open carrying an AR in a restaurant would not incite any fear in them sufficient to leave. Everyone here would make a quick exit under certain circumstances including certain gentlemen walking into a nola restaurant armed. Whether they were justified in doing so depends on those circumstances.

The basic act of someone walking in with a gun is not sufficient justification for that. The fact that these people wouldn't return to pay for their meal when the alleged "threat" was gone is further evidence that their reaction was not genuine and simply done for other purposes. The idea that the author of the article has to encourage people to do this shows that the actions would not be taken out of genuine fear for their lives. If these people truly feared for their safety, they would not need an article to tell them to run.

The argument is ridiculous and not applicable to %99.999 of the population, but if we did not discuss sensational exaggerated topics on internet forums how else do we get through the day? Otherwise it is just: Do not be a criminal and steal from restaurants. Do not be a moron and carry a rifle in a restaurant. /thread, back to work.

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Guns should be taken away from civilians.

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Go ask the folks in Chicago and Washing DC how this worked out for them.

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I just don't support concealed and especially open carry.

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so you support only the criminals being armed then.