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re: If your house/plumbing can’t handle a few days of freeze, you need to call your builder
Posted on 1/24/25 at 12:43 pm to Tiger1242
Posted on 1/24/25 at 12:43 pm to Tiger1242
You’re clueless.
It’s all about state, county and city building codes. Has nothing to do with the price of the home unless you own the land and dug the well yourself. In a nutshell most of the gulf south has building codes that only require 2 to 3 feet depth while northern states require 5 to 6 feet depth. It’s outdated codes that should have never existed in the first place and it’s too late to go back and fix. They can only change the codes and all new builds going forward
It’s all about state, county and city building codes. Has nothing to do with the price of the home unless you own the land and dug the well yourself. In a nutshell most of the gulf south has building codes that only require 2 to 3 feet depth while northern states require 5 to 6 feet depth. It’s outdated codes that should have never existed in the first place and it’s too late to go back and fix. They can only change the codes and all new builds going forward
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Posted on 1/24/25 at 12:46 pm to GeauxTigers123
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Historically would’ve seem like a waste of money to build to those standards in the south.
Yeah that’s some cheap skate shite. Even if we only get a snow once every 3 or 4 years it’s still worth doing. Hard freezes happen every year. It’s worth doing. It can’t be that much more expensive if everyone else in the country does it.
Posted on 1/24/25 at 12:49 pm to turnpiketiger
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It can’t be that much more expensive if everyone else in the country does it.
Agree to disagree
Posted on 1/24/25 at 12:49 pm to Tiger1242
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If someone builds a house that can’t stand up to basic natural events (not hurricanes, tornados, etc.), that person should lose their liscence.
Florida baw, who designed and built my house, almost entirely solo... it's seen more hurricanes/tropical storms than multi day freezes or snow
my pump is the only thing that has even frozen, and it's been years since we've dropped below 20.Posted on 1/24/25 at 12:58 pm to The Mick
People were posting to check your attic. Apparently ridge vents were poorly done enough that they were getting big piles of snow in attics. As I understood it. How does it get that bad?
Posted on 1/24/25 at 1:27 pm to BeerMoney
I’ve talked to a handful of people that had that problem. Before Tuesday that problem never even crossed my mind as a possible problem.
Posted on 1/24/25 at 1:34 pm to BeerMoney
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People were posting to check your attic. Apparently ridge vents were poorly done enough that they were getting big piles of snow in attics. As I understood it. How does it get that bad?
has nothing to do with it being "poor" quality work and everything to do with blizzard conditions allowing some in
same with Ice dams
some of yall are stupid AF and have zero clue on building standards and how things are built around the country, especially the OP
now i will say, if everyone would have done spray foam, pex piping then prolly wouldnt have been an issue besides ice damns.
Posted on 1/24/25 at 1:42 pm to lsu777
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everything to do with blizzard conditions
lol
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some of yall are stupid AF
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lsu777
Posted on 1/24/25 at 1:43 pm to Tiger1242
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If your house/plumbing can’t handle a few days of freeze, you need to call your builder
I reached out to my builder. I learned he's been dead for 60 years. What should I do now?
This post was edited on 1/24/25 at 1:45 pm
Posted on 1/24/25 at 1:44 pm to Tiger1242
As a builder, I would agree. Shitty builders cut shitty corners.
As a builder, I also have to write a check for an energy inspection fee which the city gladly cashes before sending out an inspector whose sole job is to ensure all openings are properly sealed and all exposed piping is properly installed and insulated.
All of this said, if you want to build a custom home, but do no want to pay the very slightly increased cost of going with pex piping instead of cpvc and decline spray foam insulation over fiberglass bat, and you have an UN-insulated attic, you run the risk of getting the ice expanding inside of pipes you paid for.
As for an unprotected outside hose bib bursting, that's the equivalent of blaming Ford for your engine blowing up when you ran your vehicle without oil.
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Everyone got mad at the state/local government but it’s not their fault the contractors who built the houses did a shitty job.
As a builder, I also have to write a check for an energy inspection fee which the city gladly cashes before sending out an inspector whose sole job is to ensure all openings are properly sealed and all exposed piping is properly installed and insulated.
All of this said, if you want to build a custom home, but do no want to pay the very slightly increased cost of going with pex piping instead of cpvc and decline spray foam insulation over fiberglass bat, and you have an UN-insulated attic, you run the risk of getting the ice expanding inside of pipes you paid for.
As for an unprotected outside hose bib bursting, that's the equivalent of blaming Ford for your engine blowing up when you ran your vehicle without oil.
This post was edited on 1/24/25 at 1:51 pm
Posted on 1/24/25 at 1:46 pm to GeauxTigers123
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Not really. Up north they have different building standards. The lines are built below the frost line which is several feet below ground. Historically would’ve seem like a waste of money to build to those standards in the south
Right so they went cheap and built your house to not withstand all weather.
Posted on 1/24/25 at 1:46 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
umm it was blizzard conditions...mainly based off the wind and type of snow...what now you gonna tell me i dont know shite about home building and engineering too?
Posted on 1/24/25 at 1:47 pm to Tiger1242
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Right so they went cheap and built your house to not withstand all weather.
ok do you expect your house to withstand earthquakes? expect homes in NY to withstand hurricanes?
you realize how expensive it is to build a home that can with stand all natural disasters?
Posted on 1/24/25 at 1:49 pm to Basura Blanco
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As a builder, I also have to write a check for an energy inspection fee which the city gladly cashes before sending out an inspector whose sole job is to ensure all openings are properly sealed and all exposed piping is properly installed and insulated.
All of this said, if you want to build a custom home, but do no want to pay the very slightly increased cost of going with pex piping instead of cpvc and decline spray foam insulation over fiberglass bat, and you have an insulated attic, you run the risk of getting the ice expanding inside of pipes you paid for.
As for an unprotected outside hose bib bursting, that's the equivalent of blaming Ford for your engine blowing up when you ran your vehicle without oil.
this i agree with. many dont like spray foam or pex...this past week is why i love them.
but some of these people are insane and think you should plan for any and all disasters. becomes a point where the cost to repair is way cheaper than preparing before hand.
Posted on 1/24/25 at 1:53 pm to Tiger1242
33 year old house handled the snow and freeze like a champ.
Posted on 1/24/25 at 1:54 pm to BeerMoney
quote:Thx
People were posting to check your attic. Apparently ridge vents were poorly done enough that they were getting big piles of snow in attics. As I understood it.
Posted on 1/24/25 at 1:58 pm to Tiger1242
quote:The problem is you dumb mother frickers keep buying them.
It’s ridiculous that “nice” houses are built that can’t handle a few days in a row of temperatures in the 20’s, regardless of where they are built, that’s irresponsible.
Posted on 1/24/25 at 2:12 pm to lsu777
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many dont like spray foam or pex...this past week is why i love them.
Not going with spray foam on a new build is the worst mistake an owner can make imo.
Forgetting how much better it is at just the act of insulating, foam is also installed up the walls and onto the underside of the roof as opposed to the floor of the attic which means your attic is now within the conditioned envelope of the home. No ridge or soffit vents to allow hot or cold moist air into an attic storing tens of thousands of dollars of HVAC, water heaters, and piping (not to mention personal storage). Even if you don't dump air into them, the attic stays below 85 deg even in the summer, and as heat rises, as warm or warmer than living areas in the winter.
And if you go with closed cell foam ( unfortunately still ~twice the cost of open cell foam) it can remain submerged almost indefinitely without breaking down or absorbing water. It also provides a small amount of structural integrity in exterior walls.
On the coast, we are just beginning to using Smart sense siding (think composite paneling that is impervious to water ) on the interior of covering of ground level enclosures, with treated lumber studs, closed cell foam, and exterior hardi siding. Built correctly, and utilizing flood vents to relieve pressure, these rooms can survive nominal forces of storm surge. Once flooding and surge has retreated, the walls dry naturally thru weep holes and are livable without any demo/rebuild.
Posted on 1/24/25 at 2:14 pm to Tiger1242
I know everyone likes that new house smell, but those new stick built houses in the suburbs of Dallas and Houston are some of the worst examples of craftsmanship I've ever seen. Lots of DR Horton, Lennar, and KB built neighborhoods. I lived in a 1970's area home when I lived in Allen and survived the last snowpoclypse with a 20 year old plumbing system.
Posted on 1/24/25 at 2:32 pm to LSU Grad Alabama Fan
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I reached out to my builder. I learned he's been dead for 60 years. What should I do now?
Too late for a card I guess.
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