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re: If you didn't flood in Baton Rouge are you now getting flood insurance?

Posted on 8/23/16 at 1:01 pm to
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
112526 posts
Posted on 8/23/16 at 1:01 pm to
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If his house floods, the city of Baton Rouge is the next Atlantis
Everyone says this, and it simply isnt true
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
86677 posts
Posted on 8/23/16 at 1:02 pm to
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I get it, but I genuinely question the accuracy of the risk assessments in the first place. Subsidized federal flood insurance is what it is, but 500-level and 1000-level events could be much more or less likely than they estimate.


I'm talking about making your own assessment based off the flooding that just occurred
Posted by BlackAdam
Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 8/23/16 at 1:03 pm to
No. I'm not betting against myself.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
112526 posts
Posted on 8/23/16 at 1:04 pm to
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its a risk thing

some weigh the risk and accept the risk

And still want money when they flood........ And say, "But the chances were soooooooo low. It isnt my fault I didnt buy the insurance, it says I am in a 500 year zone...."
Posted by Icansee4miles
Trolling the Tickfaw
Member since Jan 2007
32319 posts
Posted on 8/23/16 at 1:04 pm to
You betcha. If Spanish Lake hasn't been empty, I'd be with so many others with everything ruined and no coverage. And as long as the retards running our city and parish keep letting developers fill up swamps, the risk is only going to increase.
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
179859 posts
Posted on 8/23/16 at 1:05 pm to
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And still want money when they flood........ And say, "But the chances were soooooooo low. It isnt my fault I didnt buy the insurance, it says I am in a 500 year zone...."
so sad they only average a rebuilding assistance of $7500
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
86677 posts
Posted on 8/23/16 at 1:07 pm to
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And still want money when they flood........ And say, "But the chances were soooooooo low. It isnt my fault I didnt buy the insurance, it says I am in a 500 year zone...."


people are hypocrites

although with all the things our government wastes money on, helping its citizens in rare natural disasters seems to be one of the last things that I care about

Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 8/23/16 at 1:07 pm to
quote:


If his house floods, the city of Baton Rouge is the next Atlantis
Everyone says this, and it simply isnt true


I can honestly say this. If my house floods, the city is screwed.

High elevation neighborhood and I live on a hill.



Saying this, I'll probably flood this hurricane season
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91871 posts
Posted on 8/23/16 at 1:13 pm to
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People think they only need to cover what they owe on a bank loan and that isn't correct.


Yeah I guess if I thought about it this way it makes sense.

However, from what I'm finding on the NFIP Summary Coverage documents it says only the Residential Condominium Building Association Policy Form has a coinsurance clause. If you do not insure at least 80% of the replacement value of your home, your claim will be treated on an actual cost value basis, but it doesn't discuss any pro rata reduction in the claim for being underinsured.
Posted by BlackAdam
Member since Jan 2016
7269 posts
Posted on 8/23/16 at 1:16 pm to
Two houses in my neighborhood flooded, both fairly close to Dawson Creek. The elevation of my house is 38. The elevation of those houses was 17.

I think I am safe. And if my house would flood, my guess is that I'd die in the flood and not need the insurance anyway.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91871 posts
Posted on 8/23/16 at 1:18 pm to
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I'm talking about making your own assessment based off the flooding that just occurred



I understand, but you cannot properly assess this flooding unless you know the likelihood of it being as bad or worse. There are going to be many people who either refuse to get it or opt out of their coverage on the assumption that two weekends ago was as bad as it will ever be, so they're safe.
Posted by LSU-MNCBABY
Knightsgate
Member since Jan 2004
25349 posts
Posted on 8/23/16 at 1:19 pm to
Didn't flood, on a hill, can't say I wasn't worried though, and for the small cost will likely get it.

Also bought a 6 man white water raft I'll be keeping in the garage attic now just in case
Posted by redneck
Los Suenos, Costa Rica
Member since Dec 2003
54201 posts
Posted on 8/23/16 at 1:20 pm to
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Nope, next question


unless you are dirt poor and simply can not afford it, I don't understand why anyone in south LA would be dumb enough to not pay $450 a year for piece of mind.
Posted by USEyourCURDS
Member since Apr 2016
12977 posts
Posted on 8/23/16 at 1:21 pm to
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Also bought a 6 man white water raft I'll be keeping in the garage attic now just in case


Stickin it out with the home boys, huh?
This post was edited on 8/23/16 at 1:22 pm
Posted by the LSUSaint
Member since Nov 2009
15444 posts
Posted on 8/23/16 at 1:23 pm to
No. That's just dumb waste of money if you weren't originally flash flooded or flooded from the total rainfall.

Absolutely worst case that could possibly happen now is a couple inches in my house. If that happens, there would be no livable housing or business in my city.
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
179859 posts
Posted on 8/23/16 at 1:24 pm to
LINK

pg 26 and continues to 27.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
104448 posts
Posted on 8/23/16 at 1:33 pm to
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unless you are dirt poor and simply can not afford it, I don't understand why anyone in south LA would be dumb enough to not pay $450 a year for piece of mind.


Not flooding (or even coming close) this past week gave me all the peace of mind I need.

If we next week get twice that amount of rainfall in a 48-hour period, I'm not going to flood. If the Mississippi River levee breaks in BR, I'm not going to flood. If the New Madrid fault suddenly unleashes the biggest earthquake in the history of the world and all of Baton Rouge suddenly sinks 50' and the Gulf of Mexico rushes in and swallows South LA... then I'd probably flood my pants with shite.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91871 posts
Posted on 8/23/16 at 1:45 pm to
quote:

pg 26 and continues to 27.


Thanks, but what am I missing?

quote:

4. Actual Cash Value Loss Settlement

The types of property noted below are subject to actual cash value (or in the case of V.4.a.(2), below, proportional) loss settlement.

a. A dwelling, at the time of loss, when the amount of insurance on the dwelling is both less than 80% of its full replacement cost immediately before the loss and less than the maximum amount of insurance available under the NFIP. In that case, we will pay the greater of the following amounts, but not more than the amount of insurance that applies to that dwelling:

(1) The actual cash value, as defined in II.B.2., of the damaged part of the dwelling; or


I understand part 2 is proportional, but it only deals with replacement costs. It seems as if you'd still received the actual cash value, including depreciation, of damaged property up to the policy limit.
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
179859 posts
Posted on 8/23/16 at 1:57 pm to
I interpret it as you are going to get the greater of the acv or the coinsurance penalty clause.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
30719 posts
Posted on 8/23/16 at 1:58 pm to
quote:

cool. maybe you'll flood twice over next 20 years


kewl. Maybe an earthquake will hit me as well. You want me to get earthquake insurance too? There's a fault line running right through Baton Rouge, and i live right by it. Maybe I should by a panic room in my house. Maybe i should get a personal bodyguard that stands outside my bedroom door while I sleep in case someone breaks into my house and shoots me before i get a chance to get my gun and shoot him first. Maybe i should cut all my trees down before they get too big and possibly destroy my house one day. Maybe i should get a filtration room just in case the chemical plants around here leak shite that i can't breath in that way i'll be safe from that. I guess i need a bomb shelter too and 1000 cans of beans and water.

shite happens. I'm not living my life scared and wasteful because of the .1% of shite.

I got well over 20" of rain throughout that ordeal. My house sits at 30' above sea level. We just saw where all the water goes. Why should i be concerned for anything outside of the Mississippi destroying all of South Louisiana, which if that happens, i doubt there's anything to come back too.


quote:

i also find it hard to believe 50k would completely cover all costs involved in a flood renovation taking kitchen cabinets and flooring involved as well as appliances etc.


I'm a jack of all trades. I'll do it myself. I have savings as well.
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