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re: If you didn't flood in Baton Rouge are you now getting flood insurance?

Posted on 8/23/16 at 12:01 pm to
Posted by lsunurse
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Posted on 8/23/16 at 12:01 pm to
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Even if you buy in a high area that has virtually no chance of flooding?


Crazy monsoon storms have flooded neighborhoods that people thought "would never flood". Simple things like new construction and road development affected how water drained and caused the flooding.


In AZ....there are not all the gutters and storm drains you see in the roads like in LA. Water from storms usually goes into designated washes.


Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
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Posted on 8/23/16 at 12:04 pm to
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Simple things like new construction and road development affected how water drained and caused the flooding.


Absolutely they have an affect.
Posted by Oddibe
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Posted on 8/23/16 at 12:06 pm to
Local saturation, combined with upstream river overflow, plus record level on 2 reservoirs.

Personally, I think so much concrete is getting laid in Houston the water is being forced to areas that cannot handle it.
Posted by LSUBoo
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Posted on 8/23/16 at 12:07 pm to
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Personally, I think so much concrete is getting laid in Houston the water is being forced to areas that cannot handle it.


That's probably a significant factor in what nurse is talking about in AZ as well.
Posted by CORIMA
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Posted on 8/23/16 at 12:16 pm to
anyone know if the $450 drops with a $10K deductible?
Posted by slackster
Houston
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Posted on 8/23/16 at 12:18 pm to
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I know the risk. And after gutting houses for 5 days I've decided I never want to ever have to deal with this myself. I'm going to look into exact cost. But I know flood insurance isn't cheap, and not one house in my neighborhood was even close to being threatened by this flood.


This may have been covered in this thread already, but just because you live in a $300k home that stayed dry doesn't mean you have to purchase a $250k policy. If you didn't get water and you think the most you could feasibly get is a foot or two, you can opt for a $50k policy with $20k contents coverage for like $300/year.

Very few people who didn't get water have any reason to insure their entire home, but some flood insurance is still a good idea.
Posted by Oddibe
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Posted on 8/23/16 at 12:19 pm to
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anyone know if the $450 drops with a $10K deductible?

I have no idea. I think my deductible is $1200
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 8/23/16 at 12:20 pm to
no
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 8/23/16 at 12:21 pm to
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to insure their entire home, but some flood insurance is still a good idea.


flood insurance policies do have coinsurance clauses.
Posted by ThePoo
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Posted on 8/23/16 at 12:22 pm to
$450 is a max preferred risk policy. I am assuming this is what you are speaking of. If so your deductible is set at $1250. No changing to higher to lower the premium

the rate, coverages, and deductibles are static for a preferred risk policy
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 8/23/16 at 12:24 pm to
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I know people who flood every time I piss outside, yet they didn't flood this time.


You're full of shite, or these people dont' live anywhere near this flooding event. If they do live in the area, and didn't flood from the giant piss that fell for 3 days straight, then they don't flood every time you piss outside. So in closing, you're full of shite.

I am not getting flood insurance. My house is built up high in the neighborhood. No one in my neighborhood flooded, even the people that are in a flood zone. If I didn't flood for this, I dont' know what it would take for me to flood. I'd rather take the risk instead of throwing away $500 every year for something that is so unlikely to happen, and if it does happen, a $50k low interest loan would not bother me. My kitchen and bathrooms need to be redone anyway.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 8/23/16 at 12:27 pm to
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I'd rather take the risk instead of throwing away $500 every year for something that is so unlikely to happen, and if it does happen, a $50k low interest loan would not bother me. My kitchen and bathrooms need to be redone anyway.


cool. maybe you'll flood twice over next 20 years. flood insurance cost would have totaled 9k all the while being a tax deduction in addition.

i also find it hard to believe 50k would completely cover all costs involved in a flood renovation taking kitchen cabinets and flooring involved as well as appliances etc.
This post was edited on 8/23/16 at 12:29 pm
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91871 posts
Posted on 8/23/16 at 12:31 pm to
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I am not saying I won't get flood insurance now but I read in advocate that his type of storm has essentially 0.2-0.3% have of Happening in a year


Those percentages are based on 100 or so years worth of data. They're hardly the end all, be all, and could be way off in either direction.

quote:

If your house didn't flood Pretty irrational to get it for those low chances and the chances will be much lower for the event where your house does flood.


But the risk doesn't go away. You may think the cost is ridiculous @ $40/month, but you should still self insure by understanding the risks and potential costs. Doing nothing is asinine.
Posted by yellowfin
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Member since May 2006
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Posted on 8/23/16 at 12:39 pm to
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all the while being a tax deduction in addition.



Better check that

Btw, I don't have flood insurance, I'm not buying flood insurance, I'm not going to flood.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 8/23/16 at 12:40 pm to
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flood insurance policies do have coinsurance clauses.


You seem pretty well versed. Am I correct assuming that I can buy a $50k/$20k contents policy on a $200k home in a preferred risk area? I was able to get a quote from Geico going that route, but it was online, so I'm not sure if can still be done that way officially.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 8/23/16 at 12:43 pm to
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cool. maybe you'll flood twice over next 20 years. flood insurance cost would have totaled 9k


the overwhelming odds though is that he doesn't

its a risk thing

some weigh the risk and accept the risk

Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 8/23/16 at 12:45 pm to
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Am I correct assuming that I can buy a $50k/$20k contents policy on a $200k home in a preferred risk area?


You can buy it but you are also subject to coinsurance clause penalties come the event of a claim. if you are deemed to only be carrying 25% of your replacement cost of home, they can basically only pay your 25% of your claim. They aren't just going to give you your first 50k of flood damages while you were under insuring your home.

also you are only saving annually $154 by dropping from the 200k/80k option.
This post was edited on 8/23/16 at 12:47 pm
Posted by slackster
Houston
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Posted on 8/23/16 at 12:51 pm to
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if you are deemed to only be carrying 25% of your replacement cost of home, they can basically only pay your 25% of your claim. They aren't just going to give you your first 50k of flood damages while you were under insuring your home.


Gotcha. I was under the assumption it worked like life insurance to an extent - if you wanted to insure your home for less, go right ahead, but you're eating the claims above that $50k.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 8/23/16 at 12:54 pm to
Nope. You got a 400k house and buy max of 250k, can't penalize you. You got a 300k house and one only wants 100k... Lookout that's a coinsurance issue. People think they only need to cover what they owe on a bank loan and that isn't correct.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91871 posts
Posted on 8/23/16 at 12:59 pm to
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the overwhelming odds though is that he doesn't its a risk thing some weigh the risk and accept the risk


I get it, but I genuinely question the accuracy of the risk assessments in the first place. Subsidized federal flood insurance is what it is, but 500-level and 1000-level events could be much more or less likely than they estimate.

Let's say what they thought was a 1000-year probability is actually more common. Instead of a .1% chance of occurring annually, there is a .5% chance of occurring annually. Seems insignificant, but now there is a 22% chance that the event will occur at least once in a 50 year stretch. That sort of thing starts to make the insurance seem like a no brainer.
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