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re: If you believe in God AND Aliens…
Posted on 4/24/25 at 10:32 am to Mr. Misanthrope
Posted on 4/24/25 at 10:32 am to Mr. Misanthrope
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What if they had never fallen and never succumbed to the Serpent’s temptation?
God made man and gave us freewill. He knew we would fall so the question is moot.
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Posted on 4/24/25 at 10:39 am to carrguitar
I believe we are in a simulation. Made by God. I think we know nothing about the universe. I think what we call physics is only what our minds can comprehend and it really do not be like it is. We just can’t think that big at this stage of our evolution. We could go on and sometime in the far future figure things out and be a space faring species, or maybe we’ll be visited and get a big jump in our evolution. I think this has definitely happened in the past. But, I also believe we have had periods of stagnation and de-evolution of our understanding as well. My fear is we are headed this direction right now and not the former. Computers doing our thinking for us will not help us grow.
References for my thoughts: Bible, Arthur C. Clarke, Isaac Asimov.
References for my thoughts: Bible, Arthur C. Clarke, Isaac Asimov.
Posted on 4/24/25 at 10:39 am to SallysHuman
quote:Indeed.
There are angels in the Bible, too.
I was only referring to the “fallen” ones.
As I think about it, don’t most Human/Alien contacts have negative consequences for the humans?
Posted on 4/24/25 at 10:42 am to Mr. Misanthrope
Not always
Posted on 4/24/25 at 10:43 am to Mr. Misanthrope
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As I think about it, don’t most Human/Alien contacts have negative consequences for the humans?
Honestly, the only connotation I've got is butt probing.
Posted on 4/24/25 at 10:54 am to Snipe
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If you believe in God, The God of the Bible who created all things Then nothing is alien to God whether or not we humans can prove its existence.
Correct, if you believe God created Earth and us as beings what would make someone think it ends there...
I've looked a little into how I view it and ChatGPT is defining it as Pantheism for me. Where God, or a high power, is more of the universe and nature and everything exists as a manifestation of the divine. So God isn't a separate entity but is present in everything around us.
Everything, including us, is just energy. And our understanding and perception of the world can be influenced by our openness and willingness to see things. So in a way, if I'm open to the idea of aliens and willing to accept them, then I would be able to see that energy as real and a creation of "god which is the universe" around us.
ChatGPT didn't have an exact word for what I was trying to explain. I think she gets a little confused when I switch from the heavy discussions of Taylor Swift and Bravo shows to real talk.
Posted on 4/24/25 at 11:00 am to HoustonChick86
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Everything, including us, is just energy. And our understanding and perception of the world can be influenced by our openness and willingness to see things.
Congratulations you've discovered Buddhism.
Spoiler alert, Buddhist are wrong. Jesus it the Way, the Truth and the Life.
Posted on 4/24/25 at 11:00 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:Scripture does not allow for the possibility of additional gods.
If Aliens can exist within the God-Bible limitations, anything else is possible. More deities/cosmic beings, alternative dimensions, etc.
Posted on 4/24/25 at 11:03 am to litenin
They are demons.
Posted on 4/24/25 at 11:05 am to Snipe
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Buddhist are wrong.
Your beliefs are a function of time (when you live on Earth and that which was put into your mind at most formative years), by whom (parents / relatives that influence you) and most importantly place (because if your birthplace and path through life was in or near Tibet, for example, your post looks very different.
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Jesus it the Way, the Truth and the Life.
If so, why did God put Jesus on Earth where He did and during a time when it took donkey speed to spread the word and required multiple language translations. Extremely low probability to spread Jesus to the world.
My Conclusion: either He did not intend Jesus for all (eg, Tibet as case in point) or we need to reconsider what was put into our belief system when we were 5 years old by those who mattered to us.
Same goes to Buddha (in reverse).
This post was edited on 4/24/25 at 11:13 am
Posted on 4/24/25 at 11:05 am to Artificial Ignorance
quote:What if God was one of us?
What are the odds that other life forms exist in that?
What are the odds there is more than 1 God?
Just a stranger on a bus?
Posted on 4/24/25 at 11:11 am to Artificial Ignorance
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Your beliefs are a function of time (when you live on Earth and that which was put into your mind at most formative years), by whom (parents / relatives that influence you) and most importantly place (because if your birthplace and path through life was in or near Tibet, for example, your post looks very different.
Maybe so but the Truth is not dependant on where or when someone grew up.
My beliefs are function of my understanding and acceptance of the Truth.
Posted on 4/24/25 at 11:17 am to Snipe
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My beliefs are function of my understanding and acceptance of the Truth.
Truth is a function of your beliefs that are a function of time and place.
Entry point and final landing points to this function are less subjective to me. I love Epistemology.
Posted on 4/24/25 at 11:18 am to wareaglepete
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God made man and gave us freewill. He knew we would fall so the question is moot.
There’s a lot of philosophy and theology packed in that assertion.
That an omniscient God “knew” man would “fall” doesn’t necessarily mean man was predetermined to “fall”. Free will at the time of the Fall, before the yet sinless perfect man actually fell, must have meant he could choose between obedience to God and rebellion against God.
To borrow a favorite film quote…
Reading the scriptural narrative reveals a lot about our current fallen human nature.
God-“How do you know you’re naked?” “Did you eat the fruit I told you not to eat?”
Adam-“The woman you made for me, she offered it to me and I ate it.”
No personal responsibility or accountability.
Blame God and the woman.
Jimmy Buffett got it;
“Some people claim that there's a woman to blame
But I know,
it's my own damn fault.”
Adam disagrees, God and Eve are to blame. Not me. It runs deep in our spiritual DNA. Only the blood of Jesus Christ offers the cure.
Posted on 4/24/25 at 11:18 am to AllbyMyRelf
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Scripture does not allow for the possibility of additional gods.
It absolutely does. 
This post was edited on 4/24/25 at 11:23 am
Posted on 4/24/25 at 11:24 am to litenin
If God created other “humans” or such beings, they would have fallen short of His Glory as well. They would need a Redeemer, same as us. I cannot fathom a scenario where Jesus hops from planet to planet atoning for the sins of the inhabitants. That would undermine the uniqueness of our world and cheapen His sacrifice. “Aliens” are simply demons or fallen angels sent to deceive and torment individuals and influence governments and societies.
Posted on 4/24/25 at 11:35 am to Snipe
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Congratulations you've discovered Buddhism.
No Buddhism encompases much more than what I am saying.
Posted on 4/24/25 at 11:44 am to litenin
The Universe is huge , why would God waste all that Space ?
Posted on 4/24/25 at 12:00 pm to Artificial Ignorance
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Artificial Ignorance
Don't sell yourself short.
It's all natural.
Posted on 4/24/25 at 12:05 pm to Snipe
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No. There are no new Gospels. J
Your post assumes that we don't know this to be true
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