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re: If the universe is 93 billion light years across, how is it only 14.5 billion years old?

Posted on 11/9/20 at 4:53 pm to
Posted by MidnightVibe
Member since Feb 2015
7896 posts
Posted on 11/9/20 at 4:53 pm to
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Never really thought about this, but shite, now Im bothered. So if the universe contains everything known then it's expanding into something that doest yet exist...???



1. Dark energy
2. Your mom's vag
Posted by scott8811
Ratchet City, LA
Member since Oct 2014
12396 posts
Posted on 11/9/20 at 4:57 pm to
thinking about the size of the universe is one of those things that makes my brain do flips and eventually sputter into a cloud of smoke...don't think I'll ever be able to wrap my head around it
Posted by MidnightVibe
Member since Feb 2015
7896 posts
Posted on 11/9/20 at 4:58 pm to
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which could then either follow Everett's interpretation of QM, the many worlds


Everett's interpretation of QM is the many worlds.

If you intended to say that, I wouldn't have gone with the comma.
Posted by LSUtoBOOT
Member since Aug 2012
16533 posts
Posted on 11/9/20 at 5:03 pm to
They say heaven is 10 zillion light years away.

Posted by MidnightVibe
Member since Feb 2015
7896 posts
Posted on 11/9/20 at 5:04 pm to
Helpful video

LINK
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
52364 posts
Posted on 11/9/20 at 5:18 pm to
Yes it is. It’s a tiny amount that has no practical effect Until you start talking a distance of light years but it’s still there.

LINK

Same thing for time dilation: time moves slightly slower (in a measurable amount in fact) for people riding along in the interstate than someone stationary. It’s just not significant until you go really fast.

EDIT:

I see the confusion now: shitty phrasing on my part.


The space between the earth and the sun IS increasing. Or more accurately: Space. The DISTANCE remains the same because the earth simply moves inward because the rate of expansion over the distance is so low it can’t overcome gravitational forces.

That doesn’t change the fact that universal expansion is occurring on even the solar system scale.
This post was edited on 11/9/20 at 6:20 pm
Posted by Moe Betta
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2019
381 posts
Posted on 11/9/20 at 5:51 pm to
I knew you were going to ask that, c'mon man, that's a bunch of malarkey and you're a lying dog faced pony soldier and my baby boy Hunter be a good keed!
Posted by Slinger16
Not Louisiana
Member since Jun 2007
21885 posts
Posted on 11/9/20 at 5:52 pm to
Super Expansion
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 11/9/20 at 6:00 pm to
How does anyone know what is "stopped" in space when everything is moving?
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
60395 posts
Posted on 11/9/20 at 6:11 pm to
Because the big bang theory is masturbatory bullshite, something we'll laugh about 100 years from now while believing something that will be laughed about 100 years from then.

It's what we do.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
75512 posts
Posted on 11/9/20 at 6:12 pm to
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What?
that makes no sense. there's still 3 dimensions from the perspective of the surface. The surface isn't moving across just 2 planes.


The surface is a 2 dimensional universe warped into three dimensional space.
Posted by lepdagod
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
4375 posts
Posted on 11/9/20 at 6:13 pm to
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It is correct. Volvagia is one of the few actual scientists on this board, and yeah, it is true.


No it is incorrect... if the Earth were moving away from the Sun humans would not exist
Posted by MidnightVibe
Member since Feb 2015
7896 posts
Posted on 11/9/20 at 6:15 pm to
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Because the big bang theory is masturbatory bullshite, something we'll laugh about 100 years from now while believing something that will be laughed about 100 years from then.



Tell us how it all started then.
Posted by EventHorizon
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
1050 posts
Posted on 11/9/20 at 6:20 pm to
Everything is checking out so far for the big bang type start. I don't think that will really change. What's more likely is that we may find out the big bang is just one of many in a cycle, or one of many with parallel universes
Posted by Kentucker
Cincinnati, KY
Member since Apr 2013
19351 posts
Posted on 11/9/20 at 6:24 pm to
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That's why the term observable universe exists.


Correct. The observable Universe in our time is 93 billion light years wide. It will become perceptibly shorter as time goes by.

The size of the entire Universe will grow larger with time, however. It is currently 10^20 times the size of the observable Universe. That’s 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 x 93,000,000,000 light years wide.
Posted by Saucypants
Tulsa, OK
Member since Jul 2019
590 posts
Posted on 11/9/20 at 6:29 pm to
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The Universe is expanding faster than the speed of light.

(Galaxies aren't expanding at the speed of light, for instance. The fabric of space itself is and that CAN travel faster than the speed of light. If you want to get deeper than that it gets extremely technical)


Thread? I think so.
Posted by Kentucker
Cincinnati, KY
Member since Apr 2013
19351 posts
Posted on 11/9/20 at 6:33 pm to
The power of “local” gravity is still strong enough to counter the effect of the dark force, which will eventually reduce everything in the Universe to its base and time will stop. Even the strongest natural force we know of, the strong nuclear force that holds quarks together, will yield to the dark force.
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
30517 posts
Posted on 11/9/20 at 6:38 pm to
Trying to understand what you’re saying. So that wouldn’t be a heat death of the universe but rather something related to dark energy?
Posted by MidnightVibe
Member since Feb 2015
7896 posts
Posted on 11/9/20 at 6:41 pm to
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The size of the entire Universe will grow larger with time, however. It is currently 10^20 times the size of the observable Universe. That’s 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 x 93,000,000,000 light years wide.


How do you know this?
Posted by Kentucker
Cincinnati, KY
Member since Apr 2013
19351 posts
Posted on 11/9/20 at 6:47 pm to
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So that wouldn’t be a heat death of the universe but rather something related to dark energy?


Define time as movement and movement as change. No movement = no time = no change. Given what we know right now, dark energy will cause entropy to increase to the point that everything will come to a total stop. There will be no movement, no change, no time.
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