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re: If the universe is 93 billion light years across, how is it only 14.5 billion years old?

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Posted by Kentucker
Rabbit Hash, KY
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 11/9/20 at 6:50 pm to
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How do you know this?


Alan Guth’s Inflation Theory.

Video.
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 11/9/20 at 6:52 pm to
So the same thing? The heat death being the cessation of the movement of everything because no energy. Whenever the last black hole evaporates or red dwarf burns out I suppose? Haven’t thought about this in a while.

Also for those interested here is a baby pic of our universe called the cosmic microwave background radiation. The different colors represent irregularities (my understanding anyways) in the very first moments of time that manifested themselves as inflation took hold.

Posted by wareaglepete
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Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 11/9/20 at 6:52 pm to
So, if galaxies are moving at speed of light and we got out into space outside of a galaxy’s pull, would everything just speed away from us?
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
31529 posts
Posted on 11/9/20 at 6:54 pm to
Yes and no. The galaxies aren’t speeding away (well they are moving but that’s not what we’re talking about), the spacetime in between you and the galaxy is expanding.

Imagine an elastic rope with balls spaced at equal intervals and then someone pulls on each end. The balls themselves aren’t moving, the elastic rope they are on is expanding.
This post was edited on 11/9/20 at 6:56 pm
Posted by klrstix
Shreveport, LA
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 11/9/20 at 6:54 pm to
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What’s in the area now that the universe will be in tomorrow?


The answer to your question is in the question...



Posted by Kentucker
Rabbit Hash, KY
Member since Apr 2013
20055 posts
Posted on 11/9/20 at 6:58 pm to
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So the same thing? The heat death being the cessation of the movement of everything because no energy.


Yes, the same thing. Although, of course, we still don’t know what dark energy is, just its effects.
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
31529 posts
Posted on 11/9/20 at 6:59 pm to
For those interested here’s two great documentaries from jim al-khalili called Everything and Nothing,


Everything

Nothing


Definitely worth a watch (anything by him is)
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 11/9/20 at 7:19 pm to
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Everything is checking out so far for the big bang type start. I don't think that will really change. What's more likely is that we may find out the big bang is just one of many in a cycle, or one of many with parallel universes




quote:

EventHorizon


Checks out.
Posted by Klingler7
Houston
Member since Nov 2009
12620 posts
Posted on 11/9/20 at 7:50 pm to
Biden has the answers to your questions. His plan explains the simulations and the aliens. He will hold a press conference on January 20th. It will all become clear. Just calm down and obey.
Posted by BHM
Member since Jun 2012
4009 posts
Posted on 11/9/20 at 8:16 pm to
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Universe is expanding faster than the speed of light


My apologies if already discussed but I have trouble grasping this. If it is expanding, what is it expanding into? What void is there.

Lets say the universe is only 10 miles wide. What is there are the end of 10 feet?
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
31529 posts
Posted on 11/9/20 at 8:26 pm to
It’s not expanding into anything, the universe is simply expanding. Everything is expanding away from everything else, there’s no center nor edge.

Expansion of the universe
This post was edited on 11/9/20 at 8:36 pm
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
24008 posts
Posted on 11/9/20 at 9:51 pm to
YouTube videos explain this. I'm not a physicist though. Guy from Fermilab explains. BS Rose Hulman and MS, PhD from Rice. Theoretical Physicist and Higgs/Bolson expert. But anyway the universe is expanding faster than the speed of light is how he explained it in one video. And then another he explained why nothing could exceed the speed of light. He sounded so good I believed both stories. Any OT theoretical physicists care to explain?
Posted by Kentucker
Rabbit Hash, KY
Member since Apr 2013
20055 posts
Posted on 11/9/20 at 10:09 pm to
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But anyway the universe is expanding faster than the speed of light is how he explained it in one video.


Space is expanding far faster than light and has been ever since the Big Bang. The space between matter groupings such as galaxies is expanding faster and faster the farther away you look. And that speed is ever increasing. We can only see a limited distance, the observable Universe, because galaxies at the cosmological horizon (of the observable Universe) are receding faster than light.

In fact, 96% of the galaxies we see now have passed beyond the coslological horizon since they emitted the light that we see. It will take billions of years for their last light to reach us, but there will be no more.
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
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Posted on 11/9/20 at 10:18 pm to
Yeah that's what he said.
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
24008 posts
Posted on 11/9/20 at 10:24 pm to
This stuff really blows my mind though. And another guy explained how the universe may be in a trillion years. That, is a trillion years. Said there won't be much left to see. But there will be a lot of stuff out there. And I'm really going to show my ignorance here but this makes sense. All elements on this planet heavier than hydrogen and helium are the product of fusion to heavier elements in long destroyed stars. Ok, I see that.
Posted by Kimist
Member since Nov 2011
512 posts
Posted on 11/9/20 at 10:29 pm to
Matter cannot travel through space faster than the speed of light. Galaxies that are moving away from ours faster than light are doing do because the expansion of space is carrying them along. The space between us is expanding, but the galaxies are traveling WITH the expanding space, not through it.

Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
24008 posts
Posted on 11/9/20 at 10:34 pm to
Yes, that's what he said. For those of us who rarely think about this it is confusing. But yes matter can't travel faster than the speed of light. But expansion can. Thise were the two different YT videos.

SOL
Yeah, Don Lincoln. If you know all this stuff, you know him.
Posted by Tiger in Texas
Houston, Texas
Member since Sep 2004
22214 posts
Posted on 11/10/20 at 9:04 am to
The whole universe thing is too mind boggling to comprehend..
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
122169 posts
Posted on 11/10/20 at 9:07 am to
Did you ever take a physics class?
Posted by Animal
Member since Dec 2017
4341 posts
Posted on 11/10/20 at 9:14 am to
IF you think light is fast you should consider the speed of dark.
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