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re: If someone takes the China Virus Vaccine, why continue wearing masks?

Posted on 12/15/20 at 8:53 am to
Posted by CrownTownHalo
CrownTown, NC
Member since Sep 2011
3078 posts
Posted on 12/15/20 at 8:53 am to
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It wasn’t developed in 9months


Yeah?

Nov 18th
“The study results mark an important step in this historic eight-month journey to bring forward a vaccine capable of helping to end this devastating pandemic. We continue to move at the speed of science to compile all the data collected thus far and share with regulators around the world,” said Dr. Albert Bourla, Pfizer Chairman and CEO
Posted by Hazelnut
Member since May 2011
16466 posts
Posted on 12/15/20 at 8:54 am to
From what I've heard it's because you can still spread it after you get the vaccine. It does fall in line with the notion that masks help more to stop you from spreading rather than you getting it.


If people on here don't believe that, that's fine I'm not here to convince anyone. Just saying the rationale I've heard
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11764 posts
Posted on 12/15/20 at 8:55 am to
Yeah. When I see all these people touching their masks all day, pulling it out of their purse or pocket, letting it hang below their nose, I feel so good knowing we are slowing the spread.
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
85366 posts
Posted on 12/15/20 at 8:56 am to
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Yeah?


Yeah.

You think that started from scratch 8 months ago?
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
26791 posts
Posted on 12/15/20 at 8:57 am to
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I have no idea how the vaccine became a political thing to not take for the Trumpkin psychos

Trump is the hero that got this fricking vaccine program rolling. It’s one of his crowning achievements, and his most staunch supporters are shitting all over it. It makes no sense


It’s the far right’s own version of virtue signaling.

I wear a mask because it’s a relatively low burden to be able to work, go out to eat, and otherwise enjoy the conveniences of modern society. When I don’t have to wear a mask to enjoy those things, I will stop.
Posted by YouAre8Up
in a house
Member since Mar 2011
12792 posts
Posted on 12/15/20 at 8:59 am to
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Oops. Someone forgot to switch over to their Parlor app before posting.


Get your head out of JBE's arse and be a man.
Posted by TSmith
New Orleans, La.
Member since Jan 2004
2219 posts
Posted on 12/15/20 at 9:01 am to
This is a good question. I had it a few weeks back, and I'm told (by a physician) that even after you have acquired immunity, there is a period of time after exposure to live virus that you can be contagious and pass it to others. The duration of this window is unknown, but is most probably pretty short.

So, it circles back the the whole argument for masks: to provide some level of protection against spread from the mask-wearer to others.
Posted by Bruco
Charlotte, NC
Member since Aug 2016
3017 posts
Posted on 12/15/20 at 9:04 am to
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The study results mark an important step in this historic eight-month journey to bring forward a vaccine capable of helping to end this devastating pandemic. We continue to move at the speed of science to compile all the data collected thus far and share with regulators around the world,” said Dr. Albert Bourla, Pfizer Chairman and CEO


If you care to read there are numerous articles that explain how and how this occurred on this timeline that don’t involve any dangerous corner cutting. A few:

-was easy to genome sequence
-experience with SARS gave a significant head start on where to attack
-continued advances in mRNA research
-this is an acute infection not a chronic infection, so you can use the bodies own weapons against it
-doses using the mRNA technology are significantly quicker and easier to manufacture
-money. Helped fund more R&D in advance of phase completion and allowed companies to ramp production in advance of approval (that’s huge)

Anyway that’s what I’ve read across a number of articles.
Posted by A Menace to Sobriety
Member since Jun 2018
32034 posts
Posted on 12/15/20 at 9:12 am to
Cuz dictators wanna keep dictating. They're enjoying the drunken power they have.
Posted by FieldMink
Fort Worth
Member since Jul 2017
797 posts
Posted on 12/15/20 at 9:17 am to
Its to be precautious i think. In a way its like taking the meds for gonorrhea. Just cause you took the meds doesn't mean go around and start raw dogging every chick you see. Or even the cold, you take the meds for the cold and you can get the cold again.
Posted by BiggerBear
Redbone Country
Member since Sep 2011
3146 posts
Posted on 12/15/20 at 9:18 am to
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Makes no sense to me?


The vaccine can prevent illness, not infection.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
106042 posts
Posted on 12/15/20 at 9:25 am to
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Yeah?

Nov 18th
“The study results mark an important step in this historic eight-month journey to bring forward a vaccine capable of helping to end this devastating pandemic. We continue to move at the speed of science to compile all the data collected thus far and share with regulators around the world,” said Dr. Albert Bourla, Pfizer Chairman and CEO


The basis for the vaccine is something the vaccine community has been working on for years.

I don’t remember the name of the doctor I saw interviewed early on, but his University had been working on a mRNA vaccine for quite some time but didn’t receive the funding to complete the research. Another had been working on a vaccine for the common cold (would have a similar basis) but at the time the school felt the public didn’t really need a vaccine for that and they stopped funding it.

A good chunk of the time spent developing vaccines is less in the lab and more jumping through the ton of hoops between funding and ethics standards to get it done. It’s that way with a lot of research outside of vaccines as well.
This post was edited on 12/15/20 at 9:26 am
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
119990 posts
Posted on 12/15/20 at 9:58 am to
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Wouldn't know, I don't wear face diapers


Damn dude.. You are crazy.. Not only did you call them face diapers.. That's just nuts, you also called it the China Virus. Dog, how you got to be so gangsta?
Posted by Nature Boy
Negatiger
Member since Jan 2008
19095 posts
Posted on 12/15/20 at 10:00 am to
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it wasn't developed in 9 months


Correct. It was far less than that. Many millions of doses were created and put into storage months ago at great expense, well before testing was completed (to whatever extent it has been tested), on the expectation that it would work as advertised (you know, safe, and effective).

Again, I ask: Does anyone really believe that had they found issues with this vaccine upon further testing that they would have just dumped all that shite into the trash and started over?

I know, I'm a loon, but this whole thing just stinks.

Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
119990 posts
Posted on 12/15/20 at 10:03 am to
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Correct. It was far less than that. Many millions of doses were created and put into storage months ago at great expense, well before testing was completed (to whatever extent it has been tested), on the expectation that it would work as advertised (you know, safe, and effective).

Again, I ask: Does anyone really believe that had they found issues with this vaccine upon further testing that they would have just dumped all that shite into the trash and started over?

I know, I'm a loon, but this whole thing just stinks.



I'll be honest, I think anything is possible at this point.
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
85366 posts
Posted on 12/15/20 at 10:09 am to
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It was far less than that.


no

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Many millions of doses were created and put into storage months ago at great expense


damn...almost like they had been working on a vaccine very similar to this for a very long time? interesting

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(to whatever extent it has been tested)


what part do you think they skipped?

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Does anyone really believe that had they found issues with this vaccine upon further testing that they would have just dumped all that shite into the trash and started over?


its almost like they have been doing research on this for decades and knew it would work?




This post was edited on 12/15/20 at 10:10 am
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
26791 posts
Posted on 12/15/20 at 10:11 am to
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Does anyone really believe that had they found issues with this vaccine upon further testing that they would have just dumped all that shite into the trash and started over?

Yes. Pfizer and Moderna have no interest in poisoning hundreds of millions of people.
Posted by S1C EM
Athens, GA
Member since Nov 2007
11594 posts
Posted on 12/15/20 at 10:13 am to
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Salmon


You can’t reason with unintelligent people in an intelligent manner. Wouldn’t waste too much of my oxygen on some of these dumb bastards. They’re doing all they can to hold up the STOP sign on their respective roadwork crews.
Posted by Nature Boy
Negatiger
Member since Jan 2008
19095 posts
Posted on 12/15/20 at 10:13 am to
No mRNA vaccine has been widely produced or used in large quantities, ever. Am I wrong about this?
Posted by S1C EM
Athens, GA
Member since Nov 2007
11594 posts
Posted on 12/15/20 at 10:16 am to
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No mRNA vaccine has been widely produced or used in large quantities, ever. Am I wrong about this?


Using ANY med in large quantities for testing is not typical. That’s why you have trials.
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