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re: If nurses across the US simply got paid more then we wouldn’t have a nursing shortage
Posted on 12/7/23 at 8:44 am to Rick9Plus
Posted on 12/7/23 at 8:44 am to Rick9Plus
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When that happens you see the crumble of society we witness today.
not to derail the thread, but are nurses/teachers/cops jobs any different today than they were 30 years ago?
Posted on 12/7/23 at 8:44 am to JasonDBlaha
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calm, collected, and mature
I dunno, buddy has a kid with an Eastern Euro chick, and she's nuttier than squirrel shite. Tried to break down his door with an axe
Posted on 12/7/23 at 8:45 am to Rick9Plus
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You don’t have to have the intelligence of a brain surgeon to be a teacher or a nurse, but the quality of both of those has a huge impact on our most vulnerable people. Increasing salary allows for selection of the top talent.
Agreed. Obviously RNs don’t have the same level of education as doctors, but it’s undeniable that without RNs our healthcare system would crumble. And right now, the healthcare industry is losing with how many RNs are quitting left and right. So something needs to be done to retain the current amount of RNs and try to get more people into the field.
Posted on 12/7/23 at 8:47 am to Rick9Plus
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Nurses, teachers, and cops have such an impact on society.
We need to depend less on them.
Thank god for AI. Times are changing for the better.
Posted on 12/7/23 at 8:50 am to jrobic4
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I dunno, buddy has a kid with an Eastern Euro chick, and she's nuttier than squirrel shite. Tried to break down his door with an axe
But who cares right? As long as she has nice tits, a nice arse, and a beautiful pussy then that at least makes her bullshite tolerable.
This post was edited on 12/7/23 at 8:55 am
Posted on 12/7/23 at 9:02 am to molsusports
quote:As someone who has spent too much time in strip clubs, I can confirm this.
There's a joke about this that goes something like if you offer a group of men $1,000 a hour then a lot of them will work 70 or more hours a week. Offer a group of women the same conditions and most will work one day in a week or maybe even one day a month.
quote:As someone who has spent too much time in strip clubs, I can confirm this.
men probably don't balance work and life, believe their reproductive success improves with more money,
Posted on 12/7/23 at 9:03 am to hubertcumberdale
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not to derail the thread, but are nurses/teachers/cops jobs any different today than they were 30 years ago?
Idk, you would have to ask some old-timers.
Posted on 12/7/23 at 9:04 am to Cosmo
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Revenue isnt profit moron
People like OP also think Elon has $230 billion in cash laying around and don't understand how net worth works.
Posted on 12/7/23 at 9:05 am to JasonDBlaha
If we stopped inventing reasons to go to the hospital and government stopped subsidizing the medical field, there wouldn't be a nursing shortage.
This post was edited on 12/7/23 at 9:05 am
Posted on 12/7/23 at 9:06 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:Hehe...AI won't clean you up when you shite yourself in the hospital bed.
Thank god for AI. Times are changing for the better.
Posted on 12/7/23 at 9:09 am to JasonDBlaha
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Some RNs start out at $21-$23 an hour
That’s pathetic. The amount of time and effort required to become a RN plus the demand and this is the best they can come up with? You can make that much stocking shelves at target now.
Posted on 12/7/23 at 9:09 am to chrome_daddy
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Hehe...AI won't clean you up when you shite yourself in the hospital bed.
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Posted on 12/7/23 at 9:17 am to hubertcumberdale
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How much do NPs require?
NPs still have to do a considerable amount of time working alongside MDs in healthcare settings.
Posted on 12/7/23 at 9:17 am to JasonDBlaha
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If a hospital company is raking in $20 billion a year, they should be able to afford to pay their nurses at least $120,000 a year
So just revenue tells you that? Revenue does not equal profit. Also a hospital company has multiple large and small hospitals. They more they have the more “Revenue” they have. Revenue is just about of work they do and does not equate to profit.
Posted on 12/7/23 at 9:22 am to jcaz
quote:quote:That’s pathetic. The amount of time and effort required to become a RN plus the demand and this is the best they can come up with? You can make that much stocking shelves at target now.
Some RNs start out at $21-$23 an hour
Meh. I have an RN in the family and while that number is low, it is the starting point of their pay: add a few dollars an hour for working in a particular ward, add a couple more for working nights, add another couple for working weekends, add more for holidays, etc. … by the time you’re two years into your job, and if you’re willing to work for it, then 100k or more is there for the taking. Even for college grads, making $100,000 a year only two years into your career isn’t all that common.
Hell, she was getting an EXTRA $40/hr just for working in the Covid ward for a few months.
Posted on 12/7/23 at 9:34 am to JasonDBlaha
quote:Holy schnikes! Obviously you don't have to be very intelligent to be a nurse.
When you factor in COL and California taxes that reduces it to at least $200,000 which would be equivalent to $130,000-$150,000 in Deep South states like Texas and Louisiana
Everything is bigger in California which is why the salaries are so inflated there
Posted on 12/7/23 at 9:36 am to tigernurse
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younger nurses ...more time on phones than taking care of patients
So, you're admitting that they aren't "overworked".
Just fricking lazy.
Posted on 12/7/23 at 9:38 am to rltiger
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Residents are in training and have a attending MD monitoring their interactions. They are overseeing it all. When the residents round on the patients, who is in the room with them? When residents are on call, who do they phone at 3 am with questions on a course of action? Who goes in at 3 am when situations come up? The attending. Don’t spin this shite that residents are on their own making decisions and nurses make medical/medicinal decisions to save patients from residents.
Physicians and nurses bring totally different, but complementary skill sets to healthcare. While you are accurate that physicians are much better qualified to practice medicine, your comment that I quoted above is absolute bullshite. In my 40 years of practice as an RN, I can tell you that it is a well documented fact that residents make many on the spot decisions and perform many procedures without direct physician oversight. While there may be someone available to them to question, this doesn’t mean that they pursue this direction. There are many, many instances when nurses intervene and residents are grateful for their experienced advice. I remember catching a resident’s mistake in time for him to change a prescription in the ER when I was a student. Neither of us told anyone else and he thanked me for catching it. And yes, there are documented statistics about increased medical errors in areas surrounding teaching hospitals in the months after new residents begin practicing. I feel sure they would be even higher if some of the errors weren’t committed in the presence of good nurses who advocated for their patients and prevented them from causing harm.
Posted on 12/7/23 at 9:41 am to JasonDBlaha
If you only knew how nurses talk about their patients in the core, the shortage would be much worse. That being said their jobs are not easy. Especially in ER clinics. They are constantly being verbally and physically abused by patients. Mental illness has become a serious issue in America.
Posted on 12/7/23 at 9:42 am to SlapahoeTribe
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by the time you’re two years into your job, and if you’re willing to work for it, then 100k or more is there for the taking.
Not as a staff nurse in pretty much all specialties, unless you're working lots of OT.
ETA in Louisiana of course.
This post was edited on 12/7/23 at 9:48 am
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